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We have with us today Peter Navarro.

He was professor of economics and public policy at UC Irvine before serving as an assistant to the president and director of the Office of Trade and Manufacturing and Policy at the White House during the Trump administration.

He has a book just out and titled, In Trump Time, a Journal of America's Plague Year.

I wonder how many people in our audience will recognize the echo of Daniel Defoe in that title.

Anyway, welcome Dr. Navarro.

Yes, now, an English professor would catch my little homage there.

And it's an homage. I'm into hom is throughout the book, whether it's Defoe or

Perry Mason or anything in between.

But importantly, the subtitle reflects the fact that I kept a daily journal at the White

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