In Three-Way Radio Debate, Stephen Meyer Takes on Chemist and Biologist

Intelligent Design the Future

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🗓️ 8 September 2023

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Is intelligent design an argument from ignorance? Is it a modern version of creationism? Can its claims be backed up by experimental results? On this ID The Future from the vault, Dr. Stephen Meyer debates Keith Pannell, a chemist at the University of Texas at El Paso and host of the NPR affiliate KTEP program Science Studio. Pannell also brings on biologist Ricardo Bernal as a co-host. We often say that Darwinists are reluctant to debate advocates of intelligent design, but here are two who deserve a tip of the hat. Pannell and Bernal tow the standard materialist line, but they're civil and give Meyer room to make his case. And as always, Meyer delivers. The discussion was likely an education for these two Texas scientists. Meyer patiently explains how intelligent design is different from creationism in epistemology as well as methodology. He notes that intelligent design uses the same historical methods of reasoning that Charles Darwin pioneered in the Origin of Species. Pannell is convinced that intelligent design is an argument from ignorance. Not at all, says Meyer. It's a positive case based on our uniform and repeated experience as well as on everything we know about the nature of information. The interview was occasioned by the anniversary of the Dover trial, a topic which comes up in the conversation. Wasn't the debate over intelligent design over after Dover? Not even close, says Meyer. We don't look to federal judges to settle deep, imponderable scientific questions. There are different disciplines for that. Meyer rounds out the discussion by elucidating on molecular machines and the type of information that contemporary Darwinian theory is given credit for without justification.

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0:00.0	On this episode of ID the Future, we feature a recent interview of
0:15.0	CSC's Stephen Meyer from an episode of Science Studio from NPR Affiliate
0:20.8	KTEP. The interview was recorded at the K-T-E-P studios at the University of Texas
0:27.5	El Paso. Hello everybody and welcome back to another science studio program. My name is Keith Panel and today I'm in the
0:34.5	studio with a guest co-host who is Ricardo Bernal who's a professor of
0:38.6	biochemistry also at the University of Texas at El Paso and today we're going to be looking into a subject which is,
0:45.0	it's central to so many people and it's peripheral to so many people,
0:48.0	and it's peripheral to so many people,
0:49.0	and it's this concept called intelligent design. As I understand intelligent
0:54.9	design, it's basically an offspring from what more people may know of as
0:59.0	creationism and so we're going to have today talking with us Dr Stephen C Meyer from the Discovery Institute in Seattle, Washington,
1:08.0	which is an organization which I'll let him explain to you.
1:11.0	And so Stephen, welcome to science studio.
1:13.0	It's great to be with both of you.
1:15.0	How did you get into this when you're a young man was your idea to be an MD or a
1:20.0	doctor or a philosopher or you know what what did you want to do when you're a
1:23.8	young boy and how did you sort of develop well I was always interested in natural
1:28.2	history as a as a kid I was fascinated with dinosaurs and trilobites and and for my grandmother sent me a big
1:35.7	college level textbook on paleontology from new in written by guy at New York
1:40.0	University and I would loved all the pictures and the figures that I could make out.
1:45.0	I remember one time when I was small I actually buried dinosaur bones in the backyard so I could
1:49.7	then bring my friends to dig them up with it not dinosaur bones they were
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