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everything secure. My guest today, Juan Castillo, has nearly four decades worth of experience,

working with offensive lines, working in the game of football, whether it's on the NFL level

or the college level. My first interaction with him was when he was the offensive line coach for the Philadelphia Eagles.

I was in Washington.

He is a highly respected teacher, coach, technician.

Coming up in just a few moments on today's In the Trenches, Juan Castillo, assistant offensive line coach.

We're happy to have them back here

at the University of Michigan. Welcome to the official podcast of Michigan football, in the trenches

with John Jansen, presented by Meyer, presenting sponsor of the 2025 Michigan football season,

and proud supporter of hundreds of local sports teams across the Midwest.

The former two-time captain and national champion covers the Wolverines better than anyone.

Offensive alignment by nature, not as athletic as defensive alignment.

So that's why... That's that defensive guy coming out in you.

But that's a hard one.

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