All I'm going to tell you about today's episode is buckle up because Steve Casula,

who's the tight ends coach, newly minted co-offensive coordinator, is an intense coach.

He's going to give an intense conversation.

You'll hear that.

You're going to get excited.

So buckle up, have some fun.

It's a roller coaster.

I can't wait for you to hear the conversation today on In the Trenches

that I had with Steve Kasula. Welcome to the official podcast of Michigan football, in the trenches with

John Jansen, presented by Meyer, presenting sponsor of the 2025 Michigan football season and proud

supporter of hundreds of local sports teams across

the Midwest. The former two-time captain and national champion covers the Wolverines better than

anyone. Before the game, I was sitting on the bench. I was talking to Colston Loveland and he just

looked at me and he's like, I don't want to mess with. He was like, you're cool sitting here hanging

out? I was like, yeah, absolutely, man. I was like, what are you talking about?

I was like, well, you're calling the plays today.

And then, like, I would never, I'd never told anybody of this.

I kind of looked around and I was like, yeah, I'm calling the plays today in a Michigan football game.

Like, whoa.

This is in the trenches presented by Meyer. Once again, here's John Jansen. Join now by a man that got a new title, tight ends coach, now co-offensive coordinator here at the University of Michigan for the football program, Steve Kasula.

Coach, it's always a pleasure to have you.

Thanks for joining me.

...