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The opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the participants, not of Reuters News. I've had numerous friends tell me that they were educated to believe that North Koreans had horns.

And I would just think, you know, they are the same people as you.

What would make you think that they have horns. North Korea said it was a hydrogen bomb.

The rest of the world isn't so sure, but whatever kind of nuclear

device it was, the test carried out deep below ground was another reminder that Kim Jong-un and his regime won't be ignored.

This week on War College, we're talking about what's really going on inside North Korea.

And we're talking with Jean Lee, one of the few people who can legitimately call themselves an expert in the subject.

You're listening to War College, a weekly discussion of a world in conflict focusing on the stories behind the front lines.

Here's your host, Jason Fields.

Hello and welcome to War College. I'm Broiders opinion editor Jason Fields and I'm

Matthew Galt contributing editor at War is Boring. Today we're talking to

Jean Lee.

She's a North Korea expert and professor at Jansay University in Seoul.

In 2012, Lee helped establish the Associated Press Bureau in Pyongyang, North Korea's capital.

So thanks so much for joining us.

Thanks for having me.

So I think we got sort of overtaken by the news even though we'd scheduled this interview before

to talk more generally, but reports that North Korea

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