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Stay Tuned with Preet

In Brief: The Mystery of Havana Syndrome (with Julian E. Barnes)

Stay Tuned with Preet

Vox Media Podcast Network

Politics, Government, News, Society & Culture

4.832.4K Ratings

🗓️ 24 October 2022

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

Preet speaks with Julian E. Barnes, a national security reporter for the New York Times, about the so-called “Havana Syndrome” — a mysterious set of medical symptoms experienced by American diplomats and intelligence officers around the world. Stay Tuned in Brief is presented by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Please let us know what you think! Email us at letters@cafe.com, or leave a voicemail at 669-247-7338. References and Supplemental Materials: Julian E. Barnes, “Most ‘Havana Syndrome’ Cases Unlikely Caused by Foreign Power, C.I.A. Says,” NYT, 1/20/22 Executive Summary of DNI’s Havana Syndrome Report, 2/1/22 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

From Cafe in the Vox Media Podcast Network, this is Stay Tune in Brief.

0:09.8

I'm your host, Pete Barara.

0:12.2

This week we're going to talk about the so-called Havana Syndrome, a mysterious set of medical

0:16.6

symptoms first experienced by US diplomats stationed in Cuba in late 2016.

0:22.9

Since then, hundreds of diplomats and intelligence officers around the world have reported similar

0:27.8

symptoms, debilitating headaches, dizziness, and memory loss.

0:32.8

What started as a medical mystery has become a major national security concern.

0:37.4

The CIA under President Biden has made it a priority to investigate the causes of these

0:41.8

incidents.

0:42.8

But what have they learned so far?

0:45.1

To discuss these efforts, I'm joined by Julian E. Barnes, a national security reporter

0:49.1

for the New York Times covering the intelligence community.

0:52.2

Julian, welcome to the show.

0:54.3

Thanks for having me on.

0:55.9

So you've been all over this for a long time and I really appreciate the service of your

0:59.9

reporting.

1:00.9

Can we start with something very basic?

1:02.8

What exactly is the Havana Syndrome as we know it?

1:06.7

What's the frequency of it?

1:07.7

What's the magnitude of it?

1:09.4

So those should be easy questions, but they're not.

1:14.9

The Havana Syndrome is a set of symptoms which you describe reoccurring headaches, dizziness,

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