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NPR's Book of the Day

In 'A Haunting in Hialeah Gardens,' debt takes on many meanings

NPR's Book of the Day

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Arts, Books

4.2672 Ratings

🗓️ 3 January 2024

⏱️ 7 minutes

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Summary

Hugo Contreras, the protagonist of Raul Palma's new novel, is a babaláwo; he can cleanse evil spirits. Except he doesn't really believe in the whole thing. So when he's able to strike up a deal with a debt collector – get rid of the ghosts in his house in exchange for a clean slate – he assumes he can mostly fake it. In today's episode, Palma joins NPR's Scott Simon to discuss A Haunting in Hialeah Gardens, and how the concept of debt – not just financial, but personal, too – stirs up a lot of trauma for Hugo.

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0:00.0

Hey, it's NPR's book of the day. I'm Andrew Limbaugh. I don't know if you've ever gotten a call

0:07.3

from a debt collector, but it's really scary. You know, they call once, twice, and it just becomes

0:13.7

this thing hanging over you, possibly lurking behind every unknown caller. Today's book takes

0:20.1

that fear seriously and blends it with some actual ghosts.

0:24.3

It's Raul Palma's A Hailea Gardens,

0:27.2

and he talked to NPR Scott Simon about how debts, of all kinds,

0:30.9

you know, financial, personal, have a way of creeping into every empty pocket in your life.

0:37.7

In the U.S., national security news can feel far away from daily life.

0:42.4

Distant wars, murky conflicts, diplomacy behind closed doors.

0:47.0

On our new show, Sources and Methods.

0:49.0

NPR reporters on the ground bring you stories of real people,

0:52.7

helping you understand why distant events matter here at home.

0:56.6

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1:02.0

When Rall Palma's novel, a haunting in Hia Gardens opens, Hugo Contreras feels his life is shrunk.

1:10.2

He lives in a small bare cell of a Miami apartment

1:13.0

after his beloved wife, Melly has died. He cringes under medical debt with only enough

1:18.6

discretionary income to indulge in a single cafetito each week. One day he gets another call

1:25.1

from a debt collector, Alexei Ramirez, and is about to hang up when he learns he needs his help.

1:31.7

Hugo is a Babelow.

1:34.3

He spiritually cleanses haunted houses.

1:37.6

And if he can banish spirits from Alexi's house, the collector will banish Hugo's debt.

1:43.6

Raul Palmer, born and raised in Miami, is now on the fiction faculty at Ithaca College,

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