People are like great at just putting these blinders on.

We're like, it's not affecting me.

I don't want to know about it.

Like that doesn't exist out there because it will ruin you.

So many people are so afraid to step into that fire and they just don't prioritize it.

Or they don't fully know until it happens to them until they know somebody.

And then they get involved in it and then they know.

How can I help help how can i be

useful in ending needless suffering do not be afraid of work that has no end we have to organize a

social movement we have an opportunity to lead by example versus just talking, hot air.

I think the more people in this fight, the more we grow, eventually it could change.

You know, the people are the ones that can make the change.

What's up for everybody? My name is Jesse, and I'm one of the producers on change agents here at Ironclad.

And like every Wednesday, we plan to bring you a brand new episode this week where Andy was going to sit down with an agent of change.

But like many people, the guests that we had scheduled for this week's episode was affected by the California wildfires and was forced to

evacuate. And so we will be back next week and the coming weeks with all new episodes and

conversations. But today, we did want to give a shout out to the California Fire Foundation.

If you want to help those affected by these fires, particularly the people on the front lines of fighting them,

check out cafirefoundation.org.

They provide support and assistance to firefighters and families of firefighters on the front lines of trying to protect communities,

people, and their homes. So today, instead of a brand new episode, though, since we've had a lot

of new people come to the show, we actually wanted to re-broadcast our very first episode,

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