This is the Friends of History Debating Society. I'm John Bachelor. Michael Jan has been at the

Darien Gap all day, still is technically. We're talking about the south of Panama and he's

taken a crew in to observe the gathering of those people coming through the

gap and how they're being cared for at the Pan American highway side of the gap.

Michael, you've been here so many times.

What is new?

Good day to you.

Good day.

We literally just got back to phone coverage,

and I was rushing to get back and talk to talk with you and we've been out at Kanan Mimbrio.

It's a village deep in the jungle, Embra Indian Village and this is the village that most of the Chinese come out to after they've

crossed through the Darien gap. There was no Chinese there today. There was no

migrant they at all. There was no there were no aliens in Kanambeo today.

Took us hours to get out there and the reason there's none out there is because

nine Afghans died some days ago.

They were coming ashore in two boats and the boats capsized.

And so nine died and so that route is now closed temporarily because the seas are so rough.

And so basically they drown near Carreto on the and the Kuna Indian side there on the golf side.

And so, but yesterday we were out actually

at Baho Chikido, which was completely full.

Yesterday, about 3,000 came through,

not just Chinese but everybody you know it's who's who in the zoo and including a lot of Afghans and Haitians and Venezuelans of course and people that were trying to hide their faces and Haitians, you know, the whole works. I mean, so, yeah, about 3,000 yesterday, but again, today we went to Kanam and Brio and Zero came on that route due to the

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