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Hot Takes & Deep Dives

Ilene Chaiken on Creating The L Word, Bette & Tina, Jennifer Beals, Kate Moennig

Hot Takes & Deep Dives

Jess Rothschild

Rhony, Tv & Film, Andycohen, Rhobh, Realhousewives, Bravotv, Vpr, Rhoc, Bravo, Popculture, Rhop, Pumprules, Bethennyfrankel, Lgbtculture, Rhod, Realhousewivesofnyc, Rhoa, Vanderpumprules

4.71.4K Ratings

🗓️ 9 January 2023

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Jess is joined by THE L WORD creator and show-runner Ilene Chaiken! Ilene discusses running Aaron Spelling's production company, her real-life version of The Planet, the head of Showtime wanting to cast Leisha Hailey as Shane, Jennifer Beals choosing Laurel Holloman as Tina, and Mia Kirshner's brilliant improv as Jenny. Also discussed: Ilene's original plan for Bette & Tina, contributions to Gen Q, is Gen Q canon, Sepideh Moafi as Gigi, the mistreatment of Daniel Sea (Max) on set, Holland Taylor as Peggy Peabody and a LOT more!

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0:00.0

Welcome back to Hot Takes and Deep Dives, and my next guest needs no introduction.

0:20.2

She is the creator and showrunner behind the L word.

0:23.6

Hi, Eileen Chacon.

0:25.3

How are you?

0:26.3

Hi.

0:27.3

I'm doing all right.

0:29.6

Your daughter considered all the, I know.

0:31.8

So you just got back from a trip and you, you got COVID on the way home.

0:37.3

Where were you on your vacation?

0:39.3

It wasn't a vacation, although it was a wonderful epic trip.

0:44.0

We were in Kenya for a couple of weeks and then on the way home stopped in London to see

0:50.0

my daughter.

0:52.0

And I think, you know, we're well and healthy throughout the entire time and then got

0:57.6

COVID at Heathrow on the way home.

1:00.0

Oh my God.

1:01.0

You've been able to pinpoint it to Heathrow.

1:03.0

Hi, I'm being presumptuous, but Heathrow was, can I like say whatever I want?

1:11.7

What's truly whatever you want?

1:12.9

Yes.

1:13.9

So Heathrow was a clusterfuck.

1:16.4

Can I say that?

1:17.4

Yes, of course.

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