The proportion of our online experiences using online platforms that is now dominated by

bots and AI content and stuff that's generated by non-human entities is actually having such

a detrimental effect on people's experience that's stopping use and services.

If there's a theme through that kind of arc of actually having such a detrimental effect on people's experience, that's stopping use and services.

If there's a theme through that kind of arc of my career, I think it is that so much of what we do online actually does boil down to trust.

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Hello and welcome to the UKTM podcast, a weekly chat with the movers and shakers of the UK tech industry and the destination for all things UK tech related. I'm your host, Jane Wakefield,

and today I am joined by Nick Pickles, the chief policy officer

at Tools for Humanity, a firm building tools to combat AI deep fakes and provide proof

of personhood in the AI era.

Welcome, Nick.

Hi there.

Now, I use the word UK quite a lot there, but you're not even in the

UK, are you? And it's not a UK company that we're going to be talking about. So where are you?

I'm in the US. I've been in the US since 2018, moving around various parts. And no,

tools for humanity is headquartered in San Francisco, but actually four of our five founders are

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