And So, All right. We're here in Albuquerque, New Mexico. The date is April 20th, 2021. And today I'm interviewing Marius Chino of Acama Pueblo.

So today I just have a series of six questions and I'm hoping we can spend a lot of time working through them as we see fit.

So my first question for you, Morris, is, so people claim that Pueblo people for lack of a better term and I know you have an issue with that term I know I always

identify as toa to indicate who I am because that's what we call ourselves.

I hope someday we can bring that back, right?

But people claim that public people are docile

and didn't participate in Red Power or Native resistance movements.

But I think your legacy proves them wrong.

And what do you have to say about the notion that public people didn't or don't have like a legacy of political resistance.

First of all, I'd like to introduce myself in my traditional way.

Guadzi haupa,

too shinnome kai maihishtiva. Guadalajevna Duh shinome

kai-mayst there,

dar gosh,

Jami Hanu's to that,

and what's to do at you.

Myra's china erester, Totho Tothai at you. Myrus Chino Este Americana Shia, and I'm here to do this interview.

I've thought about the question about how we may be perceived as DASA and it really

upsets me and I think that part of that perception may be our own fault.

And I think that it has to do with even our social structure as our people here in New Mexico. I hate that word Pueblo.

I detested. I don't know how we can work around it. I think it has to be a joint effort and how we can

use a different word to describe the different tribes, the indigenous tribes here in New Mexico.

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