'If You Can Keep It': The Shadow Of Political Violence
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🗓️ 15 September 2025
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Summary
Kirk, a Trump ally and the co-founder of Turning Point USA, died after being shot at an event at Utah Valley University. He was speaking to a large crowd at an outdoor “Prove Me Wrong” debate, where he invited students to challenge his political and cultural views.
At a press conference, Utah Gov. Spencer Cox asked Americans to consider what happens from here – an escalation or an off ramp.
Kirk’s killing is the latest in a spate of rising political violence across the country. A Minnesota state legislator was murdered in her home in June. The Pennsylvania governor’s house was set on fire in April. And last year on the campaign trail, Donald Trump faced two assassination attempts.
Experts who study political violence say the frequency and seriousness is increasing significantly. So, how did we get here. And is it possible to pull back? We examine the effect political violence has on the health of our democracy.
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| 0:00.0 | These days, there is a lot of news. |
| 0:02.2 | It could be hard to keep up with what it means for you, your family, and your community. |
| 0:06.9 | Consider this from NPR as a podcast that helps you make sense of the news. |
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| 0:30.0 | You're listening to the 1A podcast. I'm Jen White. And I'm Todd's Willick. Today on If You Can Keep |
| 0:36.0 | It, our weekly series on democracy, political violence and what it means for the health and the state of our republic. |
| 0:42.9 | Law enforcement authorities have announced the arrest of a 22-year-old for the shooting death of Charlie Kirk. A conservative activist and co-founder of Turning Point USA, 31-year-old Kirk died after he was shot at an event at Utah Valley |
| 0:56.0 | University. He was speaking to a large crowd at an outdoor, Prove Me Wrong debate, where he invited |
| 1:01.5 | students to challenge his political and cultural views. At a press conference on Friday, Utah's |
| 1:07.1 | Republican Governor Spencer Cox asked Americans to consider what happens from here, |
| 1:12.4 | an escalation or an off-ramp. Here's a bit of what he said. I absolutely believe that this is a |
| 1:17.6 | watershed in American history, yes. The question is what kind of watershed? And that |
| 1:22.6 | chapter remains to be written. Is this the end of a dark chapter in our history or the beginning of a |
| 1:29.4 | darker chapter in our history? The killing of Charlie Kirk is the latest in a spate of rising |
| 1:34.4 | political violence across the country. A Minnesota state legislator and her spouse were murdered in |
| 1:40.1 | their home in June. The Pennsylvania governor's house was set on fire in April. Last year, |
| 1:46.2 | on the campaign trail, Trump faced two assassination attempts. And experts who study political |
| 1:51.3 | violence say the frequency and seriousness is increasing significantly. So how did we get here |
| 1:57.8 | and can we pull back? That's what we get into today after this short break. |
| 2:02.2 | Stay with us. |
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