we are live hi this is william ramsie welcome to william ramsie investigates on today's show i have

two very special guests if you've been watching my show recently you'll see joe simhart we spoke

back uh in december 5th about peter teal and the antichrist that was very well received for people

who don't know jo this will be our fifth show he He's a former cult deprogrammer and author.

So he knows a lot about these subjects. He, we were talking about doing a follow-up to the Peter

Teal show. And he mentioned that there was a new book by John Atec. I thought it was his old book.

I remember reading a piece of blue sky back in the day, but Joe said, no, there's a new one, which I wasn't aware of.

If you're watching this on my three YouTube channels, which magically reappeared a couple months ago, or Rumble or X Twitter, you'll see the title of John Etac's new book.

The full title is if Scientology ruled the world, Nazi occultists, sex magic,

space aliens, and the second coming.

And John Atack's last name is spelled A-T-A-C-K.

And I knew him from that first book that he wrote, a piece of blue sky.

But he goes all the way back.

He's really one of the earlier members of the

Scientology group is a way to put it. I've had Jerry Armstrong, who's mentioned in this book,

his newest book on like six years ago. I got mentioned in a lawsuit or a threatened lawsuit

as probably more correct. But John was involved in Scientology at the age of 19.

He was never a living member, but he took many courses

and 25 of the available levels of the bridge

to operating Thaeton Section 5.

He left in 1983, appalled by its aggressive behavior

towards members.

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