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Plain English with Derek Thompson

If China Invades Taiwan, Is It World War III?

Plain English with Derek Thompson

The Ringer

News Commentary, News

4.8 • 1.8K Ratings

🗓️ 18 November 2022

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Today’s episode is about China’s turn toward authoritarianism—and why it might be one of the most important stories in the world. If you don’t know a lot about China—if you’ve been interested or astonished from afar by its Zero-COVID policy or its alarming saber-rattling toward Taiwan—then you and I are in the same boat. I am not at all an expert on China. But I am fascinated and alarmed by the country’s politics and by the character of its leader, Xi Jinping. Today’s guest is an expert in all things China: Bill Bishop, who writes the incredibly popular Sinocism newsletter. And he has a new podcast out called 'Sharp China.' In this episode, we discuss my biggest fears and questions: What is happening to the Chinese economy right now? Is Xi Jinping a tyrant? And if he chooses to invade Taiwan, is that World War III? Host: Derek Thompson Guest: Bill Bishop Producer: Devon Manze Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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An Instagram post gets an unexpected boost. A TikTok catches in the algorithm.

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Sometimes that's all it takes to launch someone into internet fame.

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But then what?

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This blew up is a new podcast documentary that reveals how social media

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start and is made. It's a different kind of fame.

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It's not always as glamorous as it looks.

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From Spotify and the Ring or Podcast Network, I'm Alyssa Bereznek.

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You can listen to this blew up on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.

0:31.0

Today's episode is about China's turn toward authoritarianism

0:35.0

and the prospects that an invasion of Taiwan could kick off World War Three.

0:42.0

If you don't know a lot about China,

0:45.0

if you are interested in or astonished from afar by its COVID-19 policy

0:50.0

or by its alarming saber-addling toward Taiwan

0:54.0

or its relationship with Russia or its animosity toward its biggest tech founders

0:59.0

or possible collapse of its economic growth story or even by the awkward relationship

1:04.0

between the Chinese Communist Party and TikTok,

1:07.0

the most important social media app in America,

1:09.0

if you are interested in all this stuff,

1:11.0

you kind of don't know where to begin.

1:13.0

You can't see the full picture.

1:15.0

Then you and I are in the same boat.

1:17.0

I am not a China expert at all.

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