I'm Levy Dalton and this is all drink to that where we get behind the scenes of the wine business. Oh, Wink Lawrence on the show today. Hello, how are you? I'm very well, really happy to be in New York.

Well, happy to have you here. When's the last time you're in York?

Last year in February.

And what do you see here for the reception for wines from the Jura and Savoir?

That's really what you're known for in a way,

although you've done a lot of different writing.

It's astonishing.

I know about it from a distance.

I see it online.

I see it through social media. But when I walk into a shop or a restaurant and I see the

range that is available here I I still my math drops open and when I speak to wine people and that's what they are fascinated in

it's it's amazing really different because you don't see that so much in England or?

You see it virtually not at all in England.

It is changing a little bit in London, but you have to be really in the trendy bits of London and with the really switched on wine shops and restaurants to see that.

And to be honest, I'm spending more and more time in France especially the last couple of years because I partly live there

So I'm getting a little out to touch with London, but it ain't New York

So let's place it a little bit for those who may not know.

The Jura and the Savoir are aware.

They're in eastern France. They, well, for a start, the Jura and Savoir are far apart from each other.

They are linked together by editors of magazines and books for convenience because they're the two smallest regions in France and they're very conveniently both in

eastern France and one of the Jura is northwest of Geneva in Switzerland just

about 50 miles east of Bergen. and the other

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