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All right, Thrive Nation, welcome back. Show. Wood, smoking out the Man Cave Studios here at Camp Clark and Chicken Palace, where I make up for

my lack of classiness with my amount of birds, chickens, turkeys, and we're talking today

about three-legged marketing stools and one of the things you

have to grow a church or any organization, a business.

Marketing is a

Seth God. Seth Godin says marketing is a contest for people's attention.

And this is so funny and I just want to get all the listeners to get this.

Is a kid, I stuttered a lot and so I got made fun of a lot and so I really didn't

care what anybody thought a lot and so and it just it's what happened and so I as an adult have carried out the same not really

caring at all about what anybody thinks except for I keep a little diagram in my office but I care what God

thinks I care what my partner Dr. Z thinks care my wife thinks but beyond that I

don't care you know and so if somebody says hey what you just said could have

offended God and I go, oh Billy, I gotta clean up my act a little bit here, or if it's like my wife is offended I want to, you know, or Dr. Z.

But I don't really care about what the general population thinks so as an example just a little shocker for you I was doing the math

the other day I was thinking about teacher pay you know and none of the people on our show agree with me on this one I'm sure but this is my thought.

Oklahoma we pay our teachers in the fourth lowest, third lowest in the country.

But I was looking up the least expensive states to live in and we're also the third or fourth lowest.

And so I, and our teachers work, I don't know a lot of teachers work in 12 months.

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