This is Tanya Mosley, co-host of Fresh Air, and I just talked to Pamela Anderson about her big career comeback after years in the tabloids and not being taken seriously.

She's entered a new era on stage and screen.

Suzanne Summers had a great line. She said, you can't play a dumb blonde and be a dumb blonde.

Find this interview with Pamela Anderson wherever you listen to fresh air.

You're listening to the 1A podcast. I'm Naila Boodoo in for Jen White. And this is,

in case you missed it, where we bring you some of the week's biggest

conversations you might have missed. By now, you've likely heard or read about this moment from last

week's inauguration prayer service at the Washington National Cathedral. President Trump and

Vice President Vance sat in the front row for this sermon. In the name of our God, I ask you to have mercy upon the people in our country.

We're scared now.

That is Bishop Marianne, Edgar Buddy, making a plea last Tuesday to the new president.

Reaction was swift from all sides, with Trump allies

decrying the sermon as overtly political, and Trump himself demanding apology, one the bishop

says she is not giving, but for many Christians and non-Christians on the left, her message has resonated.

The contrast is stark between Bishop Buddy's message and those of the far-right

white Christian nationalists across the U.S. They've seen a bump in support and visibility

in recent years and have embraced President Trump. In the campaign, Trump said this of the,

quote, radical left. They want to tear down crosses where they can and cover them up with social justice flags.

End quote.

Why has Bishop Buddy been embraced by so many in this moment?

And what can we learn from this about our country now and finding a peaceful way ahead?

We'll talk about that and more with the bishop herself, the right reverend Marianne Edgar Buddy,

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