Can I ask a question about the nicotine pouches?

Yes.

Does it melt in your mouth, or do you have to spit it out later?

You can spit it out, you can swallow it, or you just savor it.

I mean, you throw it in like you would a dip of tobacco.

Okay.

But you just let it sit there and then it suffuses your nervous system with life-giving nicotine.

And it really does feel like the hand of God is massaging you.

But does it feel like the high of smoking a cigarette? It's simultaneously, if you can imagine

the Zen paradox, higher alertness accompanied by deep relaxation. So you really are, no, no, it's a Zen Wow. You really are.

No, no, it's a Zen experience.

You're like cat-like in your readiness, but you're fully relaxed.

And how long does it last?

I always have one going sometimes.

If things are, you know, if I need it, I'll put another one in.

So I've got 18 milligrams of nicotine. But that gives me an unfair advantage. You're banging 18 milligrams?

Woo. That's impressive. I don't like to because it, everybody else kind of recedes into the

background and I become this kind of colossus when I do that and I feel guilty about it.

Hubris is inevitable at that point. So I usually keep it to one.

I mean, I could use a new addiction.

Oh, yes.

What's the gateway drug level?

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