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Hi, this is Louise Kamisen, Dubuca, Iowa. This week, I head into my 43rd year of teaching art.

It's been my honor to nurture emerging artists, teachers, and designers for over four decades.

This podcast was recorded at 108 p.m. on Tuesday, August 26, 2025.

Things may have changed by the time you hear it, but I'll

still be working on the course syllabi for the semester. Okay, here's the show. DeBuque, I've been there.

Me too, but that's amazing, though, 43 years. She doesn't sound. Haven't we all? Amazing, though.

43 years.

She doesn't sound a day over 29 years. No, that's incredible. Very, very cool work. Hey there, it's the NPR Politics Podcast. I'm Deepa Shiverum. I cover the White House. And I'm Domenico Montanaro, senior political editor and correspondent. And we also have NPR immigration correspondent. Sergio Martinez Beltran here.

Welcome to the pod, Sergio.

Hey, all.

Okay, so today to the pod, Sergio.

Hey, all. Okay, so today on the show, we're talking about immigration and customs enforcement. They have once again detained Maryland resident Kilmar Abrago Garcia, this time after he showed up at a mandatory ice check-in in Baltimore, Maryland, yesterday. So, Sergio, let's start with you. Abrago-Garcia's case, you know, has really captured national attention in so many ways. Walk us through, you know, his story. What happened to him? Yeah, yeah. So Kilmer Abregor Garcia was born in El Salvador and came to the U.S. illegally when he was 16 years old. He says he was escaping gang death threats.

And since then, he's lived in Maryland. He got married to a U.S. citizen and is raising three children. He was also working as a sheet metal worker. But in March, he was pulled over and

eventually arrested and detained by immigration authorities.

And three days later, just like that, he was deported to El Salvador and detained at a notorious maximum security prison there called Seqot.

It's meant to hold terrorists and alleged gang members.

The thing is deep at that he was not supposed to be deported there

because of a 2019 immigration court order

that found there was a well-founded fear of gang persecution if he returned to his home country.

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