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The Internet Book of Critical Care Podcast

IBCC Episode 86 - PJP Pneumonia

The Internet Book of Critical Care Podcast

Adam Thomas

Foam, Medicine, Health & Fitness, Science, Criticalcare, Medicaleducation

5714 Ratings

🗓️ 29 June 2020

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, we cover ICU level Pneumocystic Jirovicii Pneumonia (previously known as Pneumocystic Carinii Pneumonia).

Suggested approach:

HIV +(ve) vs HIV -(ve)

Invasive vs Non invasive diagnostic strategy

Treatment w. Septra vs other line therapies

Transcript

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0:00.0

All right, so welcome back to the Internet Book of Critical Care podcast.

0:07.3

I'm here with Adam Thomas and we're going to talk about numicistice.

0:10.0

I don't even know how to pronounce this, PJP.

0:13.0

Since everyone changed it from PCP, nobody knows.

0:16.0

Just speak really quick and just say PJP.

0:20.0

Josh, this topic is really interesting because it comes up a lot in our critically ill patients

0:25.1

and immunocompromised patients to wonder if this is part of their hypoxemic respiratory failure.

0:29.9

So I think it's a very important chapter to have down solid.

0:32.8

Today we'll talk about background.

0:34.2

And you split this up into a non-traditional framework of teaching that I

0:38.5

actually love. And you're right. This is how I think clinically everyone thinks about it, but not

0:42.6

traditionally taught. HIV-negative PJP. We'll cover blood tests, microbiology, including how to

0:50.2

get a sample with a bronch and not a bronch, and then then you approach the treatment. Josh, let's get straight into it.

0:55.1

Why break it up into HIV negative and positive PJP?

0:59.5

I feel like these are largely somewhat different animals.

1:02.8

So HIV positive pneumocestis typically is a more indolent process.

1:07.7

Patients can develop this over weeks to months.

1:09.5

It's more mild and kind of the CT

1:12.8

scan is more uniform and classic and it's a lot easier to differentiate HIV positive pneumocystis

1:18.8

from other things just based on how slowly it moves and kind of the very characteristic CT scan. So it's

1:24.3

oftentimes not like a huge diagnostic conundrum, although it may occur in patients

1:28.1

without a known diagnosis of HIV. On the flip side, HIV negative pneumocystis typically occurs a lot

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