IAN MORGAN CRON: The Path to Flourishing—and Freedom
The Double Win
Michael Hyatt
4.8 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 15 January 2025
⏱️ 65 minutes
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Summary
In this episode of The Double Win Show, Michael Hyatt and Megan Hyatt Miller interview Ian Morgan Cron, bestselling author, psychotherapist, and Episcopal priest. Ian shares insights from his new book, The Fix, offering a fresh perspective on how the 12 Steps can transform lives—even for those who don’t identify as addicts. This episode dives into universal human struggles, addressing how we numb pain, avoid truth, and search for solutions in all the wrong places.
Memorable Quotes
- “Trying to solve an inside problem with an outside solution doesn’t work.”
- “Human beings are always on the prowl for a fix, looking for something to distract or numb the big ache of what it means to be simply human.”
- “All human beings are fundamentally restless.”
- “The whole point of the 12-step program is to facilitate a spiritual awakening of sufficient force that it expels the need for external solutions to internal problems.”
- “Real happiness comes when you make memories in community.”
- “People get sick in secret. They get well together.”
- “The three most courageous words in the world are ‘I need help.’”
- “Powerlessness is a superpower. When you finally admit ‘I am powerless’ or ‘I do not have control over nearly as much of life as I think I do’ suddenly a great, great burden is lifted from your shoulders.”
- “Ultimately what we want for ourselves and the people we love most is freedom.”
- “All addicts are frustrated mystics.”
- “As I’ve kind of unraveled the codependency addiction that I had, I’ve realized that I have to just be okay with people not changing. I want them to change. I pray for them to change. But they have to want it.”
- “Your addiction is just a bad solution to a very real problem.”
- “The number one addiction? Playing God.”
Key Takeaways
- The Big Ache: Everyone carries a longing—an ache—for more. When unmet, it often leads to unhealthy patterns like workaholism, social media scrolling, or compulsive busyness.
- A Plan for Transformation: The 12 Steps offer a simple yet profound roadmap to freedom and flourishing, focusing on making peace with God, yourself, and others.
- Addiction Looks Different for High Achievers: Addiction isn’t always dramatic. For leaders and professionals, it might show up as perfectionism, control, or overworking.
- Healing Happens in Community: Isolation perpetuates pain; healing requires connection.
- Surrender Leads to Freedom: Admitting powerlessness isn’t failure—it’s the beginning of true transformation.
Resources
- The Fix by Ian Morgan Cron
- Ian Morgan Cron’s Website: ianmorgancron.com
Watch on YouTube at: https://youtu.be/ZA73bOupPL8
This episode was produced by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | People get sick in secret. |
| 0:02.0 | They get well together. |
| 0:04.0 | That's part of the magic of community, right? |
| 0:06.9 | Is you tend to get sick and stay sick alone in isolation. |
| 0:10.8 | That's why connection, as Johan Hari says, is the opposite of addiction. |
| 0:16.4 | It's not sobriety. |
| 0:17.3 | The opposite of addiction is community. |
| 0:21.0 | Hi, I'm Michael Hyatt. And I'm Megan Hyatt Miller. And you're listening to The Double Win Show, |
| 0:25.2 | where we talk about how to win at work and succeed at life. And on today's show, we interview |
| 0:30.6 | our pal, Ian Kron. Oh my goodness. You guys, this conversation is going to blow your mind. Ian has a new book out. I'll tell you a little bit |
| 0:40.8 | about him in a second, but he has a new book out called The Fix. The subtitle is how the 12 |
| 0:46.6 | steps offer a surprising path of transformation for the well adjusted, the down and out, |
| 0:51.1 | and everyone in between. And this is really a show for everyone. Whether or not you are a |
| 0:56.4 | person who identifies with addiction, has addiction in your family, whatever, it doesn't really |
| 1:01.3 | matter because what Ian talks about in this podcast is something he calls the big ache, this kind of |
| 1:07.8 | longing that we have inside of us that shows up personally and professionally |
| 1:12.7 | for which we try to solve for with all kinds of things, all the obvious addictions, of course, |
| 1:18.3 | but many that aren't so obvious and are much more insidious. And I guarantee there will be something |
| 1:22.8 | in here that will resonate with you that's standing in the way of what you want out of your life |
| 1:28.1 | that is sabotaging your best efforts to get the double wind and when it work and succeed |
| 1:32.2 | at life. So if you don't know Ian, he is the author of one of our absolute favorite books, |
| 1:37.5 | The Road Back to You, as well as his newest book, The Fix, as I said. What's really cool about |
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