Ian Leslie on Conflicted

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🗓️ 7 June 2021

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Author Ian Leslie talks about his book Conflicted with EconTalk host Russ Roberts. Leslie argues that, far from being a negative thing, conflict is often the essential ingredient that helps us get to the right answer or best solution. Because some of our best thinking comes in collaboration with others, learning how to disagree civilly when our views conflict is the key to productive conversation in business and in marriage. The conversation includes a surprising defense of confirmation bias.

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0:00.0	Welcome to Econ Talk, Conversations for the Curious, part of the Library of Economics
0:07.0	and Liberty.
0:08.0	I'm your host, Russ Roberts of Shalem College in Jerusalem and Stanford University's Hoover
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0:18.5	other information related to today's conversation.
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0:26.8	Our email address is mail at econtalk.org.
0:30.2	We'd love to hear from you.
0:37.1	Today is April 27th, 2021, and my guest is author Ian Leslie.
0:42.2	He writes the newsletter The Ruffian, and his latest book is conflicted.
0:47.3	How productive disagreements lead to better outcomes and welcome to econ talk.
0:52.1	Thank you, Russ.
0:53.1	It's a great honor to be here.
0:55.5	Your book opens by asking what's getting in the way of our productive conversations.
1:00.5	In theory, conversations are more than just passing time.
1:04.4	Econ talk I like to think about is a way we learn things from each other and those listening
1:09.2	in get to share in that, but often doesn't come work out that way.
1:16.9	Well, one of the key features of a productive conversation is a conflict of views.
1:27.1	The moment you get into a conflict of views or a disagreement is the moment that you
1:33.5	have to think a bit harder about why you said that or why you think that.
1:38.2	You have to examine your own assumptions and find arguments and reasons for your point
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