People have two choices, either to emigrate or to stay and fight.

And I'm going to stay and fight.

Right after this interview, Catholic billionaire Jimmy Lai was arrested in his office and thrown in jail.

He has been there ever since.

Why?

He refuses to bow down to the Communist Party of China.

I got the opportunity to speak to his right-hand man and fellow fugitive Mark Simon

about the incredible story of a boy that went from abject poverty to one of the most powerful men in Hong Kong.

Hmm. Oh. God bless everyone. Welcome back to the Loopcast. Today I'm joined by one of the most interesting

stories. I don't think anyone's really talking about. Today I have Mark Simon with me. Mark Simon

is considered the right-hand man to a man named Jimmy Lye. He is about to reach a bad milestone

a thousandth day in prison in Hong Kong. Mark Simon is considered the right-hand man to

Jimmy Lye and actually was forced to leave the country under some charges here. We're going to get all

into that. But first off, Mark, thank you for taking the time. Hey, thank you very much and thanks

your audience for taking the time to listen. Yeah, of course. So for those who don't know this name

Jimmy Lai, I know some people maybe know a little bit about him.

Who is he and why are we talking about him today?

The main reason we're talking about Jimmy Lai is this is a man who decided to stand up to probably the greatest threat to the world today, the Chinese Communist Party, or the Communist Party of China, as some call it,

and the threat that it represents not only just to the world in terms of military values,

military, but in terms of Western values.

Jimmy is a classic Western liberal in the sense of a defender of Western values and personal freedoms and personal

liberties. And that runs basically against everything that the Chinese Communist Party wants to

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