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The Secret Room | True Stories

I Ran from the Law

The Secret Room | True Stories

Ben Hamm

Society & Culture, Personal Journals

4.52.7K Ratings

🗓️ 28 April 2026

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Eric tells Ben the deep seated reason he developed significant contempt for the law.  It led him to challenge cops in hair-raising ways. Now, 40 years later, Eric tells his surprisingly emotional secret and where it led him. 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, Ben. My name's Eric, and my secret is I ran from the law. And not just once. I did it for years and made a habit out of challenging authority in ways that might surprise you. I'm here to tell my story of how I got in and out of situations with the law and where I ultimately landed.

0:23.4

Hey, everyone. Welcome to The Seeker Room. I'm Ben Ham. Today, my guest, Eric, joins us with a

0:28.3

surprisingly emotional secret about his relationship with the law. After a life-defining moment,

0:34.5

he lost trust and found reckless ways to challenge authority,

0:38.0

his adventures even taking him to Mexico.

0:40.6

Eric's secret is up right now.

0:42.3

Here we go.

0:45.1

Hi, Eric, and welcome to the secret room.

0:47.7

Hi, Ben.

0:48.8

Great to have you here.

0:49.8

Your secret is one of the, not sure quite how to say it, but maybe the kind of the broader secrets

0:54.6

we've had. And it's that you had a youthful contempt for authority, right? That is correct. And that

1:01.3

led to many run-ins with the law? Unfortunately, yes. Okay. And you have held the secret for 40 years,

1:08.7

and now you're ready to tell. I never even told my family.

1:12.6

Oh my gosh. Okay. Well, thank you for stepping up here in the secret room and being willing to share.

1:18.4

We're going to look at it from a number of angles and find out ultimately where it led you.

1:23.3

Yeah. So given that this is a story about your youth, let's dial back to your early 20s

1:31.1

where you first developed this contempt for the law.

1:35.2

Sure. I always stay at home and was attending college. And I had to work to pay for my college, so I was working a lot.

1:45.9

Both my mom and dad, they were in the hospital a lot.

1:49.8

And at this point in time, my mom was in intensive care.

1:54.4

She had been dealing with ongoing health issues.

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