What's going on everybody? Welcome back to the real bodybuilding podcast and I'm here with Hall of Famer Kevin Laveroni. How are you sir?

I'm doing good man. Get you for us to finally connect the dots and make this happen, right?

Yeah, I've been trying to, I've, I've message you a few times.

I know you're extremely busy, you know, supplement company and all the other things you got going on so it's nice to finally have you on so thank you very much for making the time

Well, thank you man and looking forward to it. I've heard a lot of good things about your podcast.

My good friend brother from another mother trading partner, Scott Rayner has been Raven, man,

you gotta go on the full-eyed show,

you gotta go on the show,

he's got the number one podcast out there,

and, you know, hey, he reached out,

I believe he reached out to you, yeah.

He did, he did, we were trying to connect things also.

And then he said, look, something's getting missed.

So let's just have Kevin contact me and we'll set it up but tell him I appreciate it also.

Yeah.

Give telling you kind of giving you a push to come on because I think there's a lot of things that people

want to know. So let's get into it. I thought of a lot of questions, but the first one that came to mind was your comeback. I wanted to ask you when you came back what was the and this is probably

kind of a selfish and personal reason because I'm thinking about coming back to the stage

myself but what was the catalyst that made you come back after so long being off?

The catalyst was I, if you remember back in 2003,

when I had stopped competing. I never announced there's not one video anywhere of me announcing my retirement from the sport which a lot of athletes always do do that.

I left the sport because I was just

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