Well, ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention?

Greetings, dear listeners. This is Jonah Goldberg, host of the Rentant Podcast, brought to you by the Dispatch and Dispatch Media.

This is my last recording before I hit the road on my big adventure.

And the reason why, so one reason why we're recording now is because this is my last opportunity to record and also because a long time friend and now and also colleague of the Remnant, a fan favorite going way, way back.

Scott Linsky, who writes the capitalism newsletter, a must read for anybody who actually cares about how markets actually work and how various regulations and industrial planning doesn't.

Has a big new project as a, as he's a suit now at Kato. He's no longer part of the toiling masses. He's management at Kato. And he wanted to come on to talk about this new project that he has. And I said, he has an open, we have an open door policy to Scotland's come on this podcast. So Scott, welcome back to the Remnant.

Well, thanks for having me. Yes, I am officially, I've graduated from the proletariat. And now among the money classes, it's big, big, big days at Kato and for capitalism.

Well, I mean, you are nothing if not a fan of upward mobility. Exactly. Well, I, you know, I like to say, I, you know, I started out, it is, I mean, it is kind of cool, right? I started out as an intern at Kato in the 90s, an absolute, you know, idiot kid.

And then went away and of course, practice law and all that. But to come back and now be, be doing pretty well is, it's, it's fun. It's neat. You know, really every time I walk in the building, you know, I kind of think back to, to a long time ago.

Yeah, I, I have similar views about relationship with AI. I first started as an intern. But I've studiously avoid managing people in any, in any way. But then I fell over it with the dispatch. So I can't escape it.

So you have this new big massive project going called defending globalism.

And it has remarkably little to do, obviously with nachos, but we'll get to that in a little bit.

I'm sure you can, I'm sure you can work it in. I'm sure I did.

I'm sure there's going to be an eye nacho essay. But why don't you just sort of explain what you're doing and then we'll move to the substance and then we'll come back to the bells and whistles and all that.

So the product is defending globalization. It is much like the title sounds. It originated from out of frustration, really, after sometimes about, you know, late last year.

I'd read just one too many op ed or straight journalism piece that really treated decades of unfettered globalization unfettered free trade and migration as objectively bad.

You know, fueling, you know, a de-industrialization and worker resentment and sad puppies, you name it.

And doing it really, like I said, as a one-sided affair. And of course, you get this in the punditry, but to see it also creeping into kind of the general narrative, right, the kind of conventional wisdom was very frustrating.

I think, you know, a bunch of reasons. The most obvious one is being a student of this stuff. Someone's just factually wrong. You know, how the world trade organization operates, how comparative advantage works or tariffs work is a fact.

These are facts. We have written histories of how the WTO came about. We have written histories of US tariff policy. We know about, you know, whether the United States really is this kind of unfettered free trade market, which of course it isn't.

So that was frustrating. But the other frustrating thing, and I think we all, even I fall victim to this sometimes, is portraying globalization as something kind of new and that was just kind of cooked up in a lab

by Larry Summers and Milton Friedman, I guess, like in Davos in the 90s, right. And they just, they said, let's do globalization. And they foisted upon the unwitting working masses all around the world, much to our dismay, right.

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