Hey, gadget lab listeners, we're taking this week off from our usual gadget lab programming

because of the Labor Day holiday. We will have a new episode next week, but in the meantime,

we wanted to reshare one of our favorite shows from earlier this year.

It's a very gadgety conversation with one of our more gadget-averse colleagues, Jason K.

Jason uses a folding phone, but not for all of the techno-optimistic reasons you might expect from a

wired employee.

It's funny that you think it's a gadgety conversation because I think it actually veers into the existential.

It does. It really does.

So as a lot of you may know, there's been chatter about folding phones the past few years.

Are they going to reinvent or even reinvigorate the phone market?

But they're not for everyone, right?

They're really expensive.

They've got some kinks to iron out.

They don't really feel like the full-fledged, smooth slab phones that we've all gotten really used to.

But for someone like Jason,

oh, contrary, Jason wants that foldable friction. Like he says in the show that he actively

chooses to use a foldable phone because it makes his interactions with his phone more cumbersome

and more inconvenient. He has strong feelings about tech in general and how we think

we should be using it rather sparingly in our lives.

And his adoption of a folding phone is part of that.

Yeah, it's a great conversation.

I also propose marriage to him.

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