Have you ever wondered what a sandwich sounds like?

Not much to it is there?

Unless of course, it's a Walker's sandwich.

Mmm, that is good.

Now that's what Asani should sound like.

Go all crisp in with walkers.

Delicious.

Hello and welcome to We're Talking.

This week, we're opening up a conversation about identity, acceptance and the power of being seen as we celebrate Transgender Awareness Week.

You'll hear from my good friend Ella Morgan and her dad, Chris, who share their story with honesty and heart, from learning to understand

one another to finding pride in living authentically.

These are the conversations that remind us that everyone deserves to feel safe in who they are.

This week, we're talking transgender awareness.

You are the first transgender woman that I believe that I have ever been close to.

And I remember when I found out about you coming on to Married at First sight, UK, because that's where we met, is I remember how almost nervous I was in ensuring that I was...

You didn't want to say the wrong thing? I get it. I get it. I get it all the time.

Didn't want to say the wrong thing. Didn't want to be offensive. No. But that's what I'm

trying to change, Paul, is that, and I get that because I look at the activist. Monroe, I look up to so much, Sean Faye, Charlie Craggs.

But the reason I call myself an advocate rather than an activist is because once you say you're an activist and you say one thing wrong, I feel like you're completely cancelled.

And as a community who everyone wants to cancel every day, look at what Donald Trump's doing, even today trying

to ban trans people in the military. I don't want to be one of these, no disrespect to them,

where everything I talk about, every conversation is trans. There are people that do that job

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