I Feel That Way Too!: A Conversation with Michelle MiJung Kim

The PoliticsGirl Podcast

MeidasTouch Network, Leigh McGowan

News Commentary, Politics, News

4.9 • 3.3K Ratings

🗓️ 5 August 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Things are getting so bad in America that many people are checking out, but we can’t keep pretending things are normal when we know they aren’t. We must collectively wake up to what’s happening, to how we got here, to the ugly and the scary that we’ve allowed to flourish to find the courage to stand against it. That while hope is important, we must also acknowledge change is not coming if we don’t stand up and work for it. People are not being rewarded for standing on the right side of history right now. There’s a real reason to be afraid of speaking out, but we have to do it anyway, and we have to do it even if we’re afraid. In fact, as our guest Michelle MiJung Kim says, “We can only truly practice courage when we are afraid”. As always, if you find worth in what we do, please consider SUBSCRIBING to PoliticsGirl Premium. You’ll get this podcast ad free, along with a bunch of other perks, like the rants directly to your inbox and the knowledge that you’re making this kind of highly researched, factual information possible. If that interests you, please go to https://www.politicsgirl.com/premium and subscribe today!! Thank you so much! xoPG Guest social: https://www.michellemijungkim.com/ I Feel That Way Too: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/introducing-i-feel-that-way-too-with-michelle-mijung-kim/id1813790730?i=1000708049234 As always, please RATE and SUBSCRIBE so we can grow the show, open the dialogue, and inspire change moving forward! All show links here!: https://linktr.ee/politicsgirl This episode is sponsored by… https://laundrysauce.com code: PoliticsGirl20 https://cookunity.com/politicsgirlfree code: politicsgirlfree https://JoinDeleteMe.com/politicsgirl code: politicsgirl https://hexclad.com/politicsgirl

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0:00.0	To be able to look within ourselves and to admit that no one is coming to save us, that we have to be the ones taking it upon ourselves to change ourselves and the world around us is massively scary.
0:18.3	We would rather outsource, right? We would rather donate money to an organization
0:25.0	to fight on our behalf. And more and more, I think what people are being asked to wake up to
0:32.4	is the reality that, no, it's us, babe, we have to do it. We have to care for one another. We have to
0:41.0	build a capacity to sit with discomfort, to sit with the fear, to sit with the grave amount of
0:47.8	grief of knowing that the world we want is not here and is not going to build without all of us taking part in it.
1:10.5	Hello, and welcome to the Politics Girl podcast. I'm your host Lee McGowan. Let's get into it.
1:11.9	So I was scrolling Instagram recently, as one does, and I came across a woman named Michelle
1:17.0	Mejong Kim, who was speaking at the San Francisco Human Rights Summit about how we need to stay
1:21.9	human during inhumane times. Her opening line was, fascism is fully here. And she talked about how we have protesters
1:29.9	being arrested and our immigrant neighbors being rounded up. But if you go online, you're seeing
1:34.3	get ready with me or buy this new product. And it starts to make you feel crazy. She talked about
1:39.4	how so many people are collectively severing themselves from the truth because it's just easier.
1:45.1	And although she fears a lot of things that are happening right now, the biggest fear she has is for our collective
1:49.5	loss of humanity. Everything she was saying just spoke to me, because that's my concern too. I'm having
1:55.6	a hard time functioning in a country where it feels like no one gives a shit that we're on fire.
2:00.2	So I was so appreciative to Michelle for calling it out so clearly that I asked her to come on and speak with us.
2:06.2	Michelle is a Korean-American writer, speaker, an activist.
2:09.6	She is the author of the award-winning book The Wake Up and the co-founder and former CEO of Awaken,
2:14.5	a company that led transformative equity and inclusion training across multiple
2:18.3	industries.
2:19.3	Her work has been featured everywhere from Harper's Bazaar to the New York Times, and she's
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