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I Don't Speak German

I Don't Speak German, Episode 18: Christian Identity, White Separatism, and the Militia Movement

I Don't Speak German

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Politics, News, Currentaffairs, Society & Culture

3.9 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 8 May 2019

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

This week, Daniel tells Jack about... well, the clue's in the title.

Content Warnings apply for episode and show notes.

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Show Notes:

The Terrorist Next Door

"Alt-America: The Rise of the Radical Right in the Age of Trump"

Aryan Cowboys

American Experience: Oklahoma City

Bundyville, from Oregon Public Radio and Longreads, by Leah Sottile.

Bring the War Home

Blood and Politics

From John Earnest's (Poway synagogue shooters) manifesto:

"Plenty of people wrongfully identify with being Christian. Beyond the scope of time the Father and the Son made a covenant in eternity—that the Son would bring a people to Him that He may be glorified through them. I did not choose to be a Christian. The Father chose me. The Son saved me. And the Spirit keeps me. Why me? I do not know. And my answer to loving my enemies? Trust yids and their puppet braindead lemming normalfags to take one quote from the Bible and grossly twist its meaning to serve their own evil purposes—meanwhile ignoring the encompassing history and context of the entire Bible and the wisdom it takes to apply God’s law in a broken world."

Christian Identity at Wikipedia

RJ Rushdoony and Christian Reconstruction:

"McVicar notes that it’s during this time period that Rushdoony discovered the work of Cornelius Van Til, author of The New Modernism and father of a doctrine called “presuppositional apologetics.”

It isn’t necessary or even possible to delve too deeply into Van Til’s theology here, but a Cliff Notes version is helpful: Christians and nonbelievers alike comprehend the world based on certain presuppositions. Christians operate from a correct presupposition; nonbelievers do not, and ne’er the twain shall meet. According to Van Til, nonbelievers are incapable of accurately comprehending reality, and by extension, cannot develop a correct moral framework.

Van Til’s work pulled heavily from Kant, which appealed to the intellectual Rushdoony; so did his Reformed leanings, which Rushdoony shared. Van Til’s epistemology also validated the would-be philosopher’s Duck Valley observations.

But Rushdoony took Van Til’s thought a step further. If nonbelievers couldn’t be truly moral or reasonable, secular laws, based on secular reasoning, were therefore illegitimate. The answer to solving society’s problems – and to solving Duck Valley – lay in the application of biblical law."

Aryan Nations at the SPLC

"Butler openly admired Adolf Hitler and longed for a whites-only homeland in the Pacific Northwest. He retired as an aeronautical engineer at age 55 and moved to Hayden Lake, Idaho, in 1974. There, he bought an old farmhouse and formed his own "Christian Posse Comitatus" group. By 1977, Butler had decided to form the Church of Jesus Christ Christian at the farmhouse, and named its political arm Aryan Nations.

In 1980, Butler’s church was bombed, causing $80,000 in damage. Nobody was injured or arrested. Butler responded by building a two-story guard tower and posting armed guards around his 20-acre property.

In 1981, Butler hosted the first of what would be many annual Aryan World Congress gatherings on his property. It, and the confabs that would follow, attracted almost every nationally significant racist leader around. Among them: Tom Metzger, former Klansman and leader of White Aryan Resistance; Louis Beam, another onetime Klansman who promoted the concept of leaderless resistance; Don Black, the former Klansman who created Stormfront, the oldest and largest white nationalist forum on the Web; and Kirk Lyons, a lawyer who has represented several extremists and who was married on the compound by Butler."

Kirk Lyons at the SPLC

Lyons appeared on The Political Cesspool on 4/24/2019

The Butler Plan at the Northwest Front

"Harold Covington Died a Coward"

"For a time the program was co-hosted by Corinna Burt, a body builder who had a brief stint in the adult industry, under the alias “Axis Sally.” By 2013 she had left white nationalism behind, and, in an interview with the SPLC, explained that Covington’s goal was “to get a thousand alpha Aryan males to move to his neighborhood and then basically just start shooting everyone who isn’t white.”

Indeed, Burt painted a portrait of a man who was unstable and paranoid. He “called nearly everyone in the [white supremacist] movement a homosexual,” was petrified of the thought that black men wanted to rape him, and his apartment was “filthy” with “layers of grime” on the walls. In her words, Covington was “pretty much the most horrible person ever.”

His final years were spent making YouTube videos and podcasts for NF, much of which failed to gain traction even among other white nationalists. In the age of the alt-right, troll storms, racist memes, and torch marches, Harold’s influence had waned to practically nothing. When he was in the news, it was for calling Dylann Roof’s Charleston bloodbath “a preview of coming attractions” and speculating that The Right Stuff’s Mike Enoch was secretly Jewish.

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"I had only ever written about this curmudgeonly racist once, but decided that he didn’t seem important enough to merit further attention. Looking back I stand by that calculation. His brother Ben probably summed it up the best, however, stating that “the bottom line here is that my brother is a coward. He has always been a coward and he will die a coward.” On July 14, 2018, Harold Armstead Covington died a coward at the age of 64. He will not be missed."

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"The Rise of the Balk Right"

Billy Roper Youtube

Billy Roper at the SPLC

Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association

Sovereign Citizen Movement at Wikipedia

Militia Movement at Rationalwiki

Shane Bauer at Mother Jones, "I Went Undercover with a Border Militia"

Hijacking America by Susan George

Fundamentals of Extremism

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to episode 18 of I don't speak German the podcast where I

0:06.1

Jack Graham talk to my buddy Daniel Harper about what he learned from more than two years of listening to the far right talk to each other

0:16.2

in their safe spaces their podcasts their YouTube videos etc and this week we are going to be talking about Christian identity white

0:24.9

separatism and the militia movement. But first off I'm going to clear my

0:29.2

throat and I'm going to ask Daniel to talk a little bit about a little bit of listener feedback

0:36.9

we've had we've had a comment haven't we Daniel?

0:39.2

Sure well I mean I don't want to call anybody out by name or kind of do any, I mean, because I think that there is a little bit of a question mark in the air over the last couple of episodes, and I have gotten, you know, believe believe it or not I get email from people and not all of it is

0:56.7

overwhelmingly positive so I think that is that is indeed so and some of it comes from literal Nazis and some of it comes from a Nazi adjacent people and some of it comes from people who I think are kind of speaking in good faith people on the left who are questioning maybe why I'm being mean to Nazis.

1:18.6

You know in the last couple of episodes we were talking about Holocaust denial and I kind of went a little bit aggressive on some of the people

1:27.4

who I know are listening and who talk about me on their podcasts and who are not on our side of these issues and you know there is a kind of

1:37.8

how helpful is that kind of question now I'm't think we were that aggressive, were we? I don't think we were... I mean, I... The thing is like, here's where I land on this.

1:49.4

Fourth right, maybe, but... there are lots of organizations hope not hate or

1:56.6

life after hate hope not hate. Christian Piccaleini on to you know he's got an

2:01.9

organization he works with some of these guys.

2:04.4

Light upon Light.

2:06.7

Lots of organizations, lots of people are working on basically de-radicalization through

2:11.7

empathy,

2:13.0

giving people the resources to come out of these movements,

2:16.1

giving people the ability to,

2:18.9

you know, kind of reinter mainstream society

2:21.2

by kind of shoving this off and I am 100% on board with their efforts.

2:27.8

That said, I do believe in a diversity of tactics and I don't think that that's necessarily what I'm temper mentally

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