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"I can't date Jesus": A conversation with Michael Arceneaux

Jesuitical

America Media

News, News Commentary, Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.7 • 1K Ratings

🗓️ 31 August 2018

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Michael Arceneaux has stopped going to church. After growing up as a gay black Catholic in the South, he eventually decided that he could not find a way to integrate his identities into the Catholicism he grew up with. In his new memoir: I Can’t Date Jesus: Love, Sex, Family, Race, and Other Reasons I’ve Put My Faith in Beoncé, Michael describes how coming out as gay led to tension and conflict with people like his mother, still a devout Catholic. But Michael hasn’t given up on God just yet. In fact, in I Can’t Date Jesus he describes taking a friend up on an invitation to go to a church service. There he met a pastor and theologian who “really understands the Bible wasn’t just repeating verses kind of like the equivalent (as I put in the book) like a talking head on cable news… He was far more informed than me so I actually learned something from the conversation. I found it elevating.”    Michael told us how he wished he had been able to have conversations like that earlier in his life. “I think if you caught me much earlier around the time when I was generally trying to still be in church…you would have probably been able to keep me there.” This week in Signs of the Times we break down the explosive letter that was released over the weekend by Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò accusing many church leaders—including Pope Francis—of covering up the misconduct and crimes of former Cardinal Theodore McCarrick. Thank you all so much for sharing your thoughts and struggles and joys with us in in our Facebook group, Twitter and with your emails. A special shout out to our supporters on Patreon: Your financial support makes this show possible. Thank you. If you’ve been on the fence about visiting our Patreon page—there’s no time like right now! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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That lay part means we aren't Jesuits but we were grate editors of American media.

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That lay part means we aren't Jesuits, but we work with them.

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Join us each week for a smart Catholic take

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on faith culture and the news, often over drinks.

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I'm Ashley McKinless, and I'm joined by Olga Segura. I really like hearing you say my name every week. Also, hi guys. Hi,

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Hi, Olga and Zach Davis. Hello. It's good to be with you, Ashley. Could be with you, Olga.

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Great to you guys.

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What are we drinking this week, Zach?

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This week we were drinking brown liquor in the form of bully burden.

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It was...

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How did you say that?

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Bullit? But, Brooklyn. We say bullied.

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Yeah, that's not true. But it was requested by our guest this week. Yes, so this week we're chatting with Michael Arseno, who is the author of I Can't

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Day Jesus, love, sex, family, race, and other reasons I've put my faith in Beyonce.

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