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The Europeans | European news, politics and culture

Hungary's Pride ban goes up in smoke (and glitter)

The Europeans | European news, politics and culture

Katy Lee and Dominic Kraemer

Society & Culture, News

4.8274 Ratings

🗓️ 3 July 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

This year’s Budapest Pride was banned in March under the Orbán government’s contentious “child protection” law. Demonstrators were threatened with hefty fines for participating, and the government said it would employ facial-recognition technology to identify and potentially prosecute those who turned out to take part at the march on 28 June. Did the ban work? Not in the slightest. In fact, more people than ever in the 30-year history of Budapest Pride showed up to celebrate their rights as LGBTQ+ human beings.  The massive Pride march brought a glimmer of hope to some Hungarian citizens, including this week’s guest, writer Krisztián Marton. We spoke with Krisztián about the lead-up to the event, the thrill of being on the ground last Saturday, and what might be next for Hungary, now that Viktor Orbán finally has a formidable challenger in Péter Magyar. We also chatted with Dominic’s husband, Thomas Lamers, a philosopher and dramaturg who hit the streets for us, mic in hand. (Thanks, Thomas, we owe you!) Krisztián Marton is a screenwriter and novelist. You can follow him on Instagram here and read an excerpt in English of his Margó Prize-nominated novel Crybaby here. You can donate to Thomas’s fundraiser to pay some of the fines that may be incurred by Pride attendees here.  This podcast was brought to you in cooperation with Euranet Plus, the leading radio network for EU news. But it’s contributions from listeners that truly make it all possible—we could not do it without you. If you like what we do, you can chip in to help us cover our production costs at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/europeanspodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (in many different currencies!), or you can gift a donation to a superfan. We'd also love it if you could tell two friends about this podcast. We think two feels like a reasonable number. This week's Inspiration Station recommendations: the recent episode of Zakia Sewell’s Radio 6 series Dream Time, “Solstice selections…with Zakia,” and the Ukrainian band The Sixsters, winners of the European Emerging Bands Contest. 00:00:46 A sweltering hello and a tick PSA00:03:44 Bad Week: Venetians overrun by billionaire wedding00:11:45 Good Week: Owners of Danish faces (and their copyrights)00:21:13 Interview: Thomas Lamers on Budapest Pride and Krisztián Marton on the present and future for LGBTQ+ people in Hungary00:49:57 The Inspiration Station: the BBC Radio 6 Dream Time episode “Solstice selections…with Zakia” and the Ukrainian band The Sixsters.00:53:12 Happy Ending: Cannes caps cruise-ship tourism Producers: Morgan Childs and Wojciech OleksiakMixing and mastering: Wojciech OleksiakMusic: Jim Barne and Mariska MartinaYouTube | Bluesky | Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | Mastodon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | [email protected]

Transcript

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0:00.0

This podcast has been produced in cooperation with Euronet Plus, the leading radio network for EU news.

0:11.4

But this podcast would not be possible without the incredibly generous support of our amazing listeners who donate a little bit each month at patreon.com forward slash europeans podcast. Welcome to the Europeans, the show that talks about this continent as if we are a huge, complicated, messy family. I'm speaking to you from

0:57.0

London today where I'm visiting my actual real family and I'm joined today in the co-hosting

1:03.0

seat by our wonderful producer, Katz, Laslo, who's speaking to me from Amsterdam, stepping in for

1:09.1

Katie while she's off making a baby. Hi, Katz.

1:12.4

Hi! Is it as warm over there as it is over here? I'm like sweating into my headphones. It's

1:19.9

pretty uncomfortable. Oh my God, it's absolutely baking and it's quite funny because I'm on antibiotics

1:26.2

because I got bitten by a tick, which is not

1:29.4

funny. And now I can't be in direct sunlight, so I'm just like leaping from shadow to shadow

1:35.7

trying to move around. Oh, God, that's awful. I'm sorry. Ticks are pretty scary. We should talk

1:42.5

about ticks on the podcast one day,. Yeah, a small public service announcement.

1:46.0

If you start to feel ill after a tick, then please go to your doctor.

1:50.0

Yeah, scary.

1:52.0

Anyway, I'm glad you're here today joining us, even if you're pumped up on antibiotics.

1:58.0

I'm glad we can record this in the shade.

2:00.0

Me too. What are we got coming up, Dominic?

2:02.6

Well, we're going to begin the show, as always, by first discussing who has had a good week

2:07.6

and who has had a bad week in Europe. And then we're going to be heading to Budapest because

2:12.6

this past weekend, the eyes of the world were on Budapest. Or, well, at least my eyes were on

2:19.2

Budapest. I guess I shouldn't speak for the entire world. The reason my eyes were on Budapest was

2:25.4

because it was the 30th edition of Budapest Pride. And thanks to oppressive legislation from

2:31.2

Prime Minister Victor Orban's government, the Pride March was banned.

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