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🗓️ 8 August 2025
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0:00.0 | Welcome back to The Breakdown with me, NLW. |
0:08.3 | It's a daily podcast on macro, Bitcoin, and the big-picture power shifts remaking our world. |
0:18.4 | What's going on, guys? It is Thursday, August 7th, and today we are talking about the verdict in the Roman Storm trial. |
0:25.2 | Before we get into that, however, if you are enjoying the breakdown, please go subscribe to it, give it a rating, give it a review, or if you want to dive deeper into the conversation, come join us on the Breakers Discord. |
0:33.8 | You can find a link in the show notes or go to bit.ly slash breakdown pod. |
0:37.5 | All right, friends, well, a hung jury leads to a mixed ending in the Roman Storm trial. |
0:44.0 | For the past two weeks, the tornado cash developer has been on trial in the Southern District |
0:48.0 | of New York. Prosecutors brought three charges, conspiracy to operate an unlicensed |
0:52.5 | money transmitting business, conspiracy to commit |
0:54.9 | money laundering, and sanctions violations. The trial has been fairly convoluted and controversial. |
1:01.1 | Early on, the prosecutors were criticized for introducing witnesses that seemed to have very |
1:04.8 | little connection to tornado cash. Their main strategy was to parade a string of victims and |
1:09.4 | convicted fraudsters before the jury |
1:11.2 | to demonstrate that illicit use of Tornado Cash was widespread. However, the very first witness, |
1:16.7 | the victim of a phony investment scheme, appeared to have only a very tenuous link to the case. |
1:21.7 | The person who defrauded her had not used Tornado Cash to launder the funds. Her only real |
1:26.5 | evidence was that she emailed an |
1:27.9 | unmonitored tornado cash email address asking for her money back, together with dozens of |
1:32.0 | exchanges in crypto companies. Later in the prosecution's case, FBI chain tracers acknowledged that |
1:37.2 | they couldn't prove her funds had ever touched tornado cash. The point was to demonstrate that |
1:41.5 | Roman Storm was aware the protocol was used by criminals. |
1:47.5 | However, it was never made clear what he could have done about that, given that the protocol was already deployed as an immutable smart contract. |
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