Welcome to the podcast Think Biblically, Conversations on Faith and Culture.

I'm your host Scott Ray, Dean of Faculty and Professor of Christian Ethics at Talbot School

of Theology here at Biola University. And I'm your co-host Sean McDowell. of special guest today Dr. Fizale Rana, go nicknamed Fuzz, so we'll go, we'll refer to him as

Dr Fuzz during this, who his background is in biochemistry so don't let that scare you off because he what he's really good

at is taking pretty complex scientific things and making them intelligible to people

like Sean and me who are not who don't have much scientific background.

He is the vice president of research and apologetics at the apologetics

organization called Reasons to Believe. It's a great parrochurch

organization that's just doing terrific work in apologetics around the world today.

Fuzz has written a new book entitled to Humans 2.0,

Subtitled Scientific, Philosophical, and Theological

perspectives on Transhumanism.

So there's a lot to talk about here. This is fascinating stuff.

So Fuss, thank you for being with us and for answering some questions and

making a really complex subject understandable to our audience today.

Well, Sean and Scott, thank you so much. It's just an incredible honor to hang out with you, so thank you for having me.

So let's start.

What do you mean by the term humans 2.0?

Well, you know, when you think about something that's the 2.0 version of anything, whether it's software or a computer game, you think of an upgrade, something that's new and improved.

And we have developed technologies in the last few years,

design really in a biomedical context to treat diseases

and debilitating injuries that actually can be also used to enhance human beings to extend

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