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Happy Monday and welcome back to the moment, my friends.

This episode was recorded back in September, shortly after the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan and the tragic loss

of American lives. Jackie and I sit down with the founder of a beautiful organization called Relief

Without Borders that aids refugees. This is a very special episode, and Jackie and I were honored

to be in Sunzella's presence and listen to her

passion for helping people and to paint a new picture of Afghanistan. Grateful to share this

episode, links will be available in the show notes and at the end of the episode on how to get

involved. Without further ado, we give you Sininsella Atmar on the WOMED.

Today on the WOMED, we have a very, very special guest. Her name is Sinsella Atmar.

I met Sincela through work. And when did you come over here from Afghanistan?

So I moved to America in 1997. Okay. So this is pre-9-11. Okay. I guess what were kind of the circumstances of your family

traveling here?

So my family at the time, we were eight members and we were living pretty comfortably

pre-Magiazidine takeover of Kabul. So we were living, you know, middle class. All we knew was what we knew, you know, of our country.

And my parents had to make the really difficult decision to leave their neighborhood when the two

tribes were fighting each other in Kabul. And it became a rocket war. So houses were being taken out, and my mom made the courageous decision to take her kids

and husband and take advantage of a ceasefire, something that a lot of people in the neighborhood

heard was coming.

It was a 72-hour ceasefire, and my family had to make a very

quick decision to take a few bags and start to travel east and try to get out of where

the fights were happening. So that's where our journey started and our, you know, strategy of trying

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