Let's podcast and on such Joe Jili.

I'm Joe Ovius inside Eford Studios in downtown Raleigh.

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Check them out online at Copiers. Dasplus.com. Print management, document management. Get everything you need to the cloud. Joe, why are you smirking already? Because I'm hoping you have Connor McDavid

David queued up for me today because you know how newspaper Joe feels. I don't. Newspaper Joe feels like, man, we had,

we did it.

God, we did a great job yesterday. Why? Wait. And then radio, Ovious has to say to me, then you, you know there's a show today. We got a show today too. You got like work today. Well, the thing is we have a, I think people will really enjoy our conversation with Webb Wellman today. Summer protocols. We're going to need some trumpets and some

horns to gin up our summer protocols because it's actually really good. Yeah, Web. For those

who don't know Webb, Webb is a fixture with basketball here in the state

of North Carolina.

He's the founder of the Hoop State Network, director of the John Wall Invitational.

He helped us out in the early days of this podcast two years ago.

And we've been talking about mixtapes lately.

So I thought, like, you know what?

Let's like bring the OG, an actual OG of the mixtape for hoops in the studio. So Webb's going to join us here in a little bit. To your point, you know, it's all about aggregation. The king, it's all about aggregation. So we, we have our conversation with Rob Burnhamore and Ericulski yesterday. Thanks to people who have sent me some feedback. I know they've sent you some feedback as well that when we sit down with Rod, we usually get a little something from Rod that you're not going to get elsewhere, save with Tski. That's always my challenge with Eric Tulski.

How can we kind of mix it up with Eric to get some good stuff?

And again, not surprising.

Rod was very candid about some things.

And the thing that I kind of picked up yesterday, and shout out to Murph, because he tweeted

this out, he said that, you know, there's a tiny contingent of Rod should go.

Because you, I thought you there good job, Joe, asking Rod about dealing with negativity for really the first time as a coach.

Yeah.

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