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Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government

Huawei, Lewis And The News

Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government

Institute for Government

News, Politics, Government

4.6252 Ratings

🗓️ 16 July 2020

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Britain’s decision to rip out Huawei kit from our mobile network by 2027 has set the Government on a collision course with China. Who forced this decision: Washington, the security establishment or the Government’s own backbenchers? And what does this change of posture towards a powerful trading nation mean for Brexit? The BBC’s Security Correspondent Gordon Corera joins us to discuss the tension between London and Beijing plus the detail Britain’s Integrated Security and Defence Review. And how does Russia fit in to a new Tech Cold War? “You can have the best decision-making architecture in the world – but it doesn’t mean you’ll make good decisions.” – Alex Thomas “Putin sees the end of the Soviet Union as a humiliation and he sees weakening the West as a goal.” – Gordon Corera “We’re in a world where the UK is being forced to choose between geopolitical alliances.” – Alex Thomas Presented by Bronwen Maddox with the IfG’s Alex Thomas, Cath Haddon and Alex Nice. Audio production by Robin Leeburn.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Inside Briefing, the podcast from the Institute for Government.

0:14.0

I'm Bronwyn Maddox.

0:15.4

A screeching U-turn with huge consequences across government and beyond.

0:19.6

The government has changed courts and will now bar Chinese tech giant Huawei from building

0:23.6

the UK's 5G network.

0:25.6

Why was the decision taken?

0:26.6

Possibility that even a majority of 80 wasn't enough to get support in the Commons, pressure

0:31.6

from the US, which had made very clear it was furious with the UK's tolerance of Huawei.

0:35.6

What does it show us about how this government takes big decisions?

0:39.7

And what does it mean as well for a long-awaited integrated review of foreign defence and security policy due to be completed this autumn?

0:47.6

And with a Chinese ambassador to the UK questioning whether the UK can provide an open, fair and non-discriminatory business environment for Chinese companies.

0:56.4

What does it say about relations with China?

0:58.8

George Osborne's vision of a golden era of Sino-UK relations looks over not long after it began.

1:05.7

There's also talk now of a new Cold War between China and the US.

1:09.6

We're going to take a look at all that,

1:11.0

and also the UK's changing relations with Russia and parallels between that and the Chinese

1:15.7

situation. So joining me in our virtual studio, our Alex Thomas, program director for our civil

1:20.9

service work. Hi, Alex. Hi, Bronwyn. And Kath Haddon, who leads our minister's work,

1:26.1

Kath thanks for coming back on this.

1:29.7

No problem. Thanks for having me.

1:34.7

And I'm delighted to be joined as well by Gordon Carrera, the BBC security correspondent.

1:37.4

Gordon, thanks for breaking off from lots of breaking news.

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