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HUAC'S FIRST TARGET WAS THE FEDERAL THEATER: 8 /8: The Playbook: A Story of Theater, Democracy, and the Making of a Culture War by James Shapiro (Author)

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 10 November 2024

⏱️ 6 minutes

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HUAC'S FIRST TARGET WAS THE FEDERAL THEATER: 8 /8:  The Playbook: A Story of Theater, Democracy, and the Making of a Culture War by  James Shapiro  (Author)

https://www.amazon.com/Playbook-Theater-Democracy-Making-Culture-ebook/dp/B0CGTQFQ8H

From 1935 to 1939, the Federal Theatre Project staged over a thousand productions in 29 states that were seen by thirty million (or nearly one in four) Americans, two thirds of whom had never seen a play before. At its helm was an unassuming theater professor, Hallie Flanagan. It employed, at its peak, over twelve thousand struggling artists, some of whom, like Orson Welles and Arthur Miller, would soon be famous, but most of whom were just ordinary people eager to work again at their craft. It was the product of a moment when the arts, no less than industry and agriculture, were thought to be vital to the health of the republic, bringing Shakespeare to the public, alongside modern plays that confronted the pressing issues of the day—from slum housing and public health to racism and the rising threat of fascism.

The Playbook takes us through some of its most remarkable productions, including a groundbreaking Black production of Macbeth in Harlem and an adaptation of Sinclair Lewis’s anti-fascist novel It Can’t Happen Here that opened simultaneously in 18 cities, underscoring the Federal Theatre’s incredible range and vitality. But this once thriving Works Progress Administration relief program did not survive and has left little trace. For the Federal Theatre was the first New Deal project to be attacked and ended on the grounds that it promoted “un-American” activity, sowing the seeds not only for the McCarthyism of the 1950s but also for our own era of merciless polarization. It was targeted by the first House un-American Affairs Committee, and its demise was a turning point in American cultural life—for, as Shapiro brilliantly argues, “the health of democracy and theater, twin born in ancient Greece, have always been mutually dependent.”

A defining legacy of this culture war was how the strategies used to undermine and ultimately destroy the Federal Theatre were assembled by a charismatic and cunning congressman from East Texas, the now largely forgotten Martin Dies, who in doing so pioneered the right-wing political playbook now so prevalent that it seems eternal.

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0:00.0

I'm John Batchel with Professor James Shapiro.

0:08.0

He is the Larry Miller Professor of English in Comparative Literature at Columbia University.

0:13.0

I recommend especially the year of Lear, the professor's book that we talked about many years ago,

0:20.0

as revelatory not only of

0:22.8

English human rights, but of what we inherited America, coming from a moment where Shakespeare

0:29.8

entered into history. He's not outside worrying about witches in Scotland. He's inside looking at

0:36.9

threats to the king. Right now, we're

0:40.3

talking about whatever happened to people who threatened the king. That would be FDR. And I want to

0:46.3

start with the villains. Martin dies. He serves and then tries to run for the Senate. Then he leaves

0:53.1

Congress and he returned to Congress.

0:55.4

Did he reflect on his moments as head of Hugh Act? Was that the high point of his life?

1:00.4

Or did he ever write it down, Jim?

1:04.5

No one knew it at the time when he was considered as a potential candidate for president in 1940 or at least vice president at that time.

1:14.6

His name was spoken up.

1:16.5

No one would have guessed that by the end of the war in 1945, Martin dies' career would be

1:23.6

in the rear view mirror.

1:26.0

And he left, probably because of a health scare, had left Congress, returned, and tried to be

1:31.8

returned to the House Un-American Activities Committee, which would last until 1975.

1:38.1

But his fellow members of Congress would have none of it.

1:42.5

They thought he was a dangerous man. Joe McCarthy

1:46.1

thought he was the greatest communist hunter of all time, but that McCarthy was an exception.

1:52.4

He took, he left Congress, started writing for the John Birch Society and suffered a couple of

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