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HUAC'S FIRST TARGET WAS THE FEDERAL THEATER: 5/8: The Playbook: A Story of Theater, Democracy, and the Making of a Culture War by James Shapiro (Author)

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 10 November 2024

⏱️ 8 minutes

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HUAC'S FIRST TARGET WAS THE FEDERAL THEATER:  5/8:  The Playbook: A Story of Theater, Democracy, and the Making of a Culture War by  James Shapiro  (Author)

https://www.amazon.com/Playbook-Theater-Democracy-Making-Culture-ebook/dp/B0CGTQFQ8H

From 1935 to 1939, the Federal Theatre Project staged over a thousand productions in 29 states that were seen by thirty million (or nearly one in four) Americans, two thirds of whom had never seen a play before. At its helm was an unassuming theater professor, Hallie Flanagan. It employed, at its peak, over twelve thousand struggling artists, some of whom, like Orson Welles and Arthur Miller, would soon be famous, but most of whom were just ordinary people eager to work again at their craft. It was the product of a moment when the arts, no less than industry and agriculture, were thought to be vital to the health of the republic, bringing Shakespeare to the public, alongside modern plays that confronted the pressing issues of the day—from slum housing and public health to racism and the rising threat of fascism.

The Playbook takes us through some of its most remarkable productions, including a groundbreaking Black production of Macbeth in Harlem and an adaptation of Sinclair Lewis’s anti-fascist novel It Can’t Happen Here that opened simultaneously in 18 cities, underscoring the Federal Theatre’s incredible range and vitality. But this once thriving Works Progress Administration relief program did not survive and has left little trace. For the Federal Theatre was the first New Deal project to be attacked and ended on the grounds that it promoted “un-American” activity, sowing the seeds not only for the McCarthyism of the 1950s but also for our own era of merciless polarization. It was targeted by the first House un-American Affairs Committee, and its demise was a turning point in American cultural life—for, as Shapiro brilliantly argues, “the health of democracy and theater, twin born in ancient Greece, have always been mutually dependent.”

A defining legacy of this culture war was how the strategies used to undermine and ultimately destroy the Federal Theatre were assembled by a charismatic and cunning congressman from East Texas, the now largely forgotten Martin Dies, who in doing so pioneered the right-wing political playbook now so prevalent that it seems eternal.

1935 FEDERAL THEATER

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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World. Here's John Batchelor.

0:09.0

This is CBS, I on the World. I'm John Batchelor, continuing with Professor James Shapiro of Columbia University.

0:19.0

His new book, The Playbook,

0:24.0

A Story of Theater, Democracy, and the Making of a Culture War.

0:27.8

We begin with the two hits of the Federal Theater,

0:32.1

part of the workers, the WPA program run by Harry Hopkins,

0:36.1

and led by Hallie Flanagan, the Federal Theater Program.

0:39.3

The hit Macbeth, Vooder Macbeth, the hit, It Can't Happen Here, Sinclair Lewis's novel.

0:42.3

Watching this and celebrating it and at the same time waiting

0:47.3

are voices in Congress, because there are many productions going on,

0:52.3

and all of them have a general theme of resentment

0:55.5

of where we are in america there's poverty there's unemployment there's bad housing really bad

1:02.0

housing there's prejudice that we call today lynching at the time they didn't use that word

1:10.7

routinely unless they were threatening it because they didn't use that word routinely unless they were threatening it

1:13.6

because they wouldn't move legislation to stop it.

1:17.6

This is 1935, 36 through 39.

1:21.6

Around all this are voices saying communism is a threat.

1:26.6

That's right, the Soviet Union that would later be an ally against the fascists of Germany was seen as a threat at the time.

1:33.3

And the original Red Bader, we need to introduce. His name is Martin Dyes. He's a son of a congressman. He's a member of Congress.

1:42.3

And he's very ambitious. I welcome jim to explain to us martin

1:48.1

dies he's the he's the story behind mccarthy who was he jim martin dies as you say was the son of a congressman

1:59.1

his father uh had run and served in Congress on a platform that

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