Joining me right now is Gary Myers, Gary Myers, a long-time NFL reporter and columnist

covered the NFC East in its glory years with the Dallas Morning News and the New York

Daily News. He's very familiar with the Redskins teams of the 80s and the matchups with the

Cowboys and the Giants and the Eagles.

He's a best-selling author.

His newest book is Brady versus Manning.

And the question that it answers is, was it?

It's actually Brady versus Belichick.

What did I say?

Manning.

Oh, my fault.

My fault.

Well, that is, you know what? That's your next book. That's your next book. Was it Brady or Belichick? My fault. Yeah. Was it Brady or Belichick the greatest unanswered question in NFL history? Gary is with me right now. My fault on that. So you are, look, you've been one of the

all-time, for those of us of a certain age, and remembering, you know, that era, you were a big

part of it. And then, you know, you had the book about, you know, Parcells and the former

giants and some of the tragedy around some of their stories

off of that great 86 team. Belichick was a part of it, obviously, is the defensive coordinator.

You're so intimately familiar with the Giants and with Belichick. So I'll just start with the

obvious. Why do you think Belichick didn't get 40 votes to become a first ballot hall of

famer when it seems so obvious yeah I mean I think um I mean I think it's it's

fairly obvious that he had the credentials to be a first ballot hall famer and

that um you know it's a secret ballot and I don't know who voted against him,

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