Hey everyone, it's me, Ben Blacker, the host and moderator and creator of the NERDist Writers

panel. Thanks for listening, as usual. Today's interview is with Howard Gordon, co-creator of Homeland,

showrunner of 24. He had three pilots this year. He's the busiest guy in Hollywood for the past six

months. Also a really terrific guy. And we had a nice chat. This is the penultimate

of the Fast Company showrunner chats. The Fast Company magazine's most creative people issue

included a bunch of these television folks, kindly on their part, myself included, but real great people like

Howard Gordon, Graham Yost, Liz Merriweather, Vince Gilligan, the showrunners of Key & Peel,

go check those out. They've been the past bunch of podcasts we've done, and you can also see

them on fast company's website, fast company.com.

slash most dash creative, dash people.

So today we got Howard Gordon.

Next week, Graham Yost, the creator and showrunner of justified, and he'll be the last

of these fast company interviews.

Starting this Saturday, the long-awaited nerdist writers panel Comics Edition with Lenween,

the creator of Wolverine Swamp Thing and hundreds more characters.

Adam Beechan, who wrote Hensch, Batman Beyond, and done a ton of animation work.

Heath Corson, who co-wrote the Scary Godmother Halloween special

and co-created Aim High, the web series, and myself.

We sit around, we talk about writing comics,

we talk about the business of comics.

We're going to release those every Saturday,

starting this weekend, which is June 8th. So please update your feeds if they don't update automatically and get the comics edition every Saturday for, I think we're going to do it for, you know, a bunch of months and we'll take a little break and then we'll do a bunch more, but count on getting those for quite a while. So Tuesdays and Saturdays, now you'll be getting

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