How would world leaders react to a zombie apocalypse?

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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Society & Culture, Government, News, Politics

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🗓️ 4 July 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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“Organise before they rise,” is Max Brooks’ advice in his zombie survival guide. But, are world leaders prepared enough? As 28 Years Later hits cinemas, Jacob Jarvis speaks to Daniel Drezner, author of Theories of International Politics and Zombies and professor of international politics at Tufts University, to find out how the world might react and how governments would interact during such a catastrophe. Buy Theories of International Politics and Zombies through our affiliate bookshop and you’ll help fund The Bunker by earning us a small commission for every sale. Bookshop.org’s fees help support independent bookshops too. Follow us on BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/bunkerpod.bsky.social Written and presented by Jacob Jarvis. Audio editor: Robin Leeburn. Managing editor: Jacob Jarvis. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:52.5	Hello and welcome to The Bunker, your daily dose of news without the nonsense. I'm Jacob Jarvis.
0:59.0	Organised before they rise is one of the key lessons from Max Brooks's zombie survival guide.
1:05.0	The trend of Doomsday prepping is itself on the rise, which I previously spoke about on the bunker.
1:10.3	And some people are doing
1:11.5	this because they fear the undead. But is it enough for individuals alone to prepare for the end
1:16.8	of days? With 28 years later, recently coming to cinemas, and Duny Boyle's rage-filled,
1:22.1	though not technically zombie monsters returning to the screen, I thought what better time to
1:27.0	discuss how the world might react to a zombie apocalypse. To that screen, I thought what better time to discuss how the world might
1:28.4	react to a zombie apocalypse. To that end, I'm joined by Daniel Dresner, author of theories of
1:33.8	international politics and zombies, and professor of international politics at Tufts University.
1:39.3	Daniel, thank you so much for joining me.
1:41.0	Happy to. The zombie obsession, Daniel, seems to be on the rise, and movies seem to have boomed after
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