How Workplaces — Not Women — Need to Change to Improve Equality

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🗓️ 3 March 2020

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Michelle King, director of inclusion at Netflix, says it’s time to stop telling women to adapt to the male-dominated workplace and time for the workplace itself to change. Her prior academic research shows that diversity training and anti-harassment efforts address important issues but fall short of creating gender equality in organizations. She identifies the real obstacles and shares how leaders can create a culture of equality at work, for women and men alike. King is the author of the book "The Fix: Overcome the Invisible Barriers That Are Holding Women Back at Work.”

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0:00.0	Hey everyone it's Kurt we need your help with our annual survey this is your last chance to help us get to know you so we can make idea cast even better for you
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0:19.0	And, thanks for listening. Welcome to the HBRIDIA cast from Harvard Business Review. I'm Kirtnake. Lean in, negotiate harder, exude confidence, but also warmth.
0:44.0	That's some of the... negotiate harder, exude confidence, but also warmth.
0:54.4	That's some of the advice given to women who want to advance in their careers and to be treated
0:58.5	as equal partners in the workplace, and some of that we've said right here on this show.
1:04.0	Meanwhile, organizations that espouse diversity and gender equality have been upping their
1:09.3	game by offering unconscious bias training and anti-harassment workshops. But our guest today
1:15.6	says despite all this talk in the business world of achieving more equality for
1:19.9	women were still missing the mark.
1:23.0	Michelle King spent her early career in human resources and then researched gender equality
1:28.1	as an academic and she says it's time to stop telling women to work harder and to adapt when it is the workplace that has to change.
1:36.5	And she says the recent efforts by companies to improve their work climates are helping,
1:41.1	but not really tackling the core problem.
1:44.0	Michelle King is the Director of Inclusion at Netflix
1:47.0	and her new book is The Fix,
1:49.0	overcome the invisible barriers that are holding women back at work.
1:53.6	Michelle, thanks for being here.
1:55.6	Thank you for having me.
1:56.6	It's so great to study
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