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Welcome to the New York Times podcast.

You're dubs in the chat of music, music, news, and criticism, and sometimes beyond that.

I'm John Caramonica, a critic at the New York Times.

I'm Joe Kostcarelli, a reporter at the New York Times.

How about that?

Great things to be.

Joe, at the beginning of this episode, we are listening to a song that I think we're going to

be hearing a lot in the next four years. That is God bless America, Mar-a-Lago version. This was sung a few

nights ago at a gathering, all the gatherings of the Republican elite and potentially post-Republican

elite are hanging out.

Donald J. Trump, the presumptive 47th president of the United States, on stage, singing along.

Elon Musk, richest man in the world, on stage, singing along, embracing America or embracing a song.

That's what culture is starting to look like and maybe will look like for the next four years.

We have already lived through one Trump administration.

And there have been... Remember that?

I did, yeah.

I was in my teens, maybe.

And there are things that I remember culturally from that administration.

I remember the slight hardening of the right wimification of certain corners of Nashville.

I remember that weird edict that all new government building should be built using classical architecture styles as opposed to modernism or postmodernism, which didn't seem to take effect.

How are the architects doing in the wake of the election?

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