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How wealthy do Americans feel?

1 big thing

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🗓️ 13 December 2022

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Pandemic gains in American wealth are melting away. American household net worth declined for the third consecutive quarter this year as stocks were hit hard by rising interest rates. Plus, fires prompt a movement to ban e-bikes. And, Utah becomes the latest state to partially ban TikTok. Guests: Axios' Matt Phillips and Jennifer Kingson. Credits: Axios Today is produced by Niala Boodhoo, Sara Kehaulani Goo, Alexandra Botti, Lydia McMullen-Laird, Robin Linn, Fonda Mwangi and Alex Sugiura. Music is composed by Evan Viola. You can reach us at podcasts@axios.com. You can text questions, comments and story ideas to Niala as a text or voice memo to 202-918-4893. Go Deeper: The pandemic gains in American wealth are melting away Buildings are banning e-bikes amid deadly battery fires Utah governor bans TikTok on state-owned devices, citing cybersecurity concerns Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Good morning. Welcome to Axios today. It's Tuesday, December 13th. I'm Nyla Boodon.

0:09.6

Here's what we're covering today. Fires prompt a movement to ban e-bikes. Plus, Utah

0:14.9

becomes the latest day to partially ban TikTok. But first, how wealthy do Americans feel?

0:21.9

That's today's one big thing.

0:28.9

The net wealth of American households and nonprofits declined for the third consecutive quarter

0:33.8

this year and a 9% dip compared to last year. Axios' markets correspondent, Matt Phillips,

0:39.2

is here to explain exactly how interest rates and the housing and stock markets

0:43.6

are slowly melting away pandemic wealth gains. Hey, Matt.

0:47.7

Hey, Nala, how you doing? Matt, can you explain what household net worth

0:53.2

actually is and how it's measured? Sure. It's basically the short version is,

0:58.3

it's your assets minus your liability. So your assets being your 401k, any real estate you have

1:04.8

versus their debts. So the Federal Reserve comes up with these numbers for the entire US household

1:11.5

and nonprofit sector. So economists like to talk about something called the wealth of fact,

1:16.2

which basically means the more money people have, the better they feel about spending, right?

1:22.3

Yeah, this is one of the more closely studied relationships and economics. It really gained a lot

1:28.0

of traction during the 1990s when there was just a boom in consumer spending that also coincided

1:34.4

with the boom in the stock market values and this wealth effect notion was that people really began

1:39.6

to feel much better about their financial position and therefore that gave them a confidence to

1:45.1

go out and buy that big screen TV or splurge on new car and things like that.

1:49.6

And so how different are things this holiday season then? During the pandemic, that was actually

1:54.9

a start of a really good time for wealth because when the Fed moved to counteract the economic

2:02.7

downturn, they cut interest rates to zero. You know, that brought mortgage rates down really quickly

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