Hello, I'm Steve Hassan and welcome to the influence continuum.

I'm so glad to have Dave Troy with me, tech entrepreneur, disinformation,

researcher, all-round genius in my book anyway, about trying to put together a map that makes sense

for everything that is happening right now in overwhelming speed in America but also globally.

And I just want to say, Dave, you, I think, if I remember correctly, saw my TEDx-Pekin Street

on his technology controlling your mind.

You reached out to John Werner.

You gladly introduced me.

You invited me to come to TEDx Mid-Atlantic.

You're the curator there.

Yep.

And then COVID hit.

Everything has been thrown into disarray since then.

Been thrown into disarray, but we connected,

and we'd been on this, you know, journey together

because you wanted to understand more about cults. And where I was lacking,

I introduced you to Joe Zimhardt, who knows a lot about I am and lots of the occultist kinds of

things. And so we're just doing citizenry activists to try to help.

Doing what we can to try to keep the doors glued on democracy.

Yes, yes.

And as I wrote in Cult of Trump, the Trump phenomenon was growing for at least 50 years, if not 60, post, you know, World War II and Cold War with Russia.

And as there was an arms race with nuclear weapons, there was also an arms race with mind

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