It is funny that the robot is the one who feels need for love in this time of like

disconnection and collapse and it's all the humans who just like really couldn't care less about it.

Which is often a theme of movies about robots in this period in time like AI is similarly about this.

It's very much about the robots will remind us of what's good of it's a very boy in his dog type thing where it's like you have a

dog and the dog reminds you and we're sort of swapping robots in there for a sci-fi thing.

Yeah I guess the difference is it was a time when we thought the robots were going to be designed by Apple.

So it would be friendly and nice and now we know in fact they're going to be designed by Facebook.

That means they're just here to like give a shit posting. I'm Max Fisher. I'm Max Fisher. I'm Hallickeeper. And joining us is the writer

Emily St. James. Emily writes criticism, journalism, novels, and for television, which is a lot of writing,

Emily, you also have the forthcoming novel Woodworking coming out early next year, right?

Yes, absolutely.

It's, it's, I'm very excited.

It's coming, yeah.

And you and I also worked together at Fox,

I believe it was 500 years ago.

Yeah, it was, I was much younger then

and had more energy and didn't have a toddler and those things are not related at all.

Well we're so excited to have you here. This is the offline movie club every episode we discuss a great movie and how it reflects or shapes how we think about technology in the internet.

This week we are talking about Wally, the 2008 animated Pixar film about a future in which we were so addicted to our screens that it takes a robot mutiny

Led by a mobile trash compactor to get us to look up and log off

Emily let's start with you. What do you think makes this movie important for how we think

about technology in the internet?

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