If you listen to Potsave America, you're a politically engaged individual, which means you know there has never been a more important time to invest in pro-democracy media in this country.

That's why you should add the Bullwork podcast to your rotation.

Tim Miller, my pal friend of the show, former Republican operative turned anti-Trump pro-democracy crusader, interviews a wide range of guests from celebrities to politicians to everyone in between. It's a great, really informative conversation with people of all different views,

and you should definitely check it out. He's also joined by other members of the Bullwork crew

like Sarah Longwell, Will Salatin, and George Conway. You'll also catch some of our Podsave

team on there from time to time, myself included. Watch on YouTube and listen and subscribe to the Bullwork podcast wherever you get your podcast. Welcome to another special episode of Positive America.

I'm Dan Pfeiffer.

I'm recording this on Friday, November 8th, just three days after the election that left us shocked, angry, scared, and demoralized.

On our two earlier shows this week, we talked about the results and about Kamala Harris's

campaign strategy. On today's show, we're going to focus on one thing, the voters that made the

difference. Knowing how the race ultimately played out, there's no one better to talk to than today's

two guests. First, I'm going to be talking with our friend Sarah Longwell of the Bullwork, who has run dozens of focus groups with swing voters this cycle, and Carlos Odeo, co-founder of Eki's research, and one of the real democratic experts of the Latino vote.

Let's get into it.

Sarah, welcome back to Potsave America under obviously less than ideal circumstances, but it's great to talk to you.

Yeah, welcome to my waking nightmare.

Yes. How are you processing everything over these last three days here?

Yeah, I mean, look, one of the things that I'm trying to do is rather than sort of look at what just happened, I think a lot about what we've known for the last few years, right?

Because I've spent a lot of time listening to voters.

I do the focus groups multiple a week. And like, it's all in there. You know, it's all in there. We knew that people were really frustrated by inflation. It was the number one thing that we heard from people. You know, we start every focus group the same way. We say, how do you think things are going in the country? And left, right and center, the answer was usually not good. And inflation was the number one reason

why. Just general costs. And you listen to young people talk about housing costs. And that

frustration was palpable. And then there's just a bunch of big factors, right? Obviously,

I'm sure you guys have covered this around what's happening

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