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How to Know What’s Real

How to Waste Time

How to Know What’s Real

The Atlantic Monthly Group, LLC

Education, Self-improvement, Science, Social Sciences, Society & Culture

41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 4 December 2023

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Co-hosts Becca Rashid and Ian Bogost explore our relationship with time and how to reclaim it. Why is it so important to be productive? Why can it feel like there’s never enough time in a day? Why are so many of us conditioned to believe that being more productive makes us better people? Author Oliver Burkman offers some insights. This episode was co-hosted by Becca Rashid and Ian Bogost. Becca Rashid also produces the show. Editing by Jocelyn Frank and Claudine Ebeid. Fact-check by Ena Alvarado. Engineering by Rob Smierciak. The managing editor of How to Keep Time is Andrea Valdez. Write to us at [email protected]. Music from by Dylan Sitts (“On the Fritz”), Gavin Luke (“Time Zones”), Martin Guaffin (“The Time”), and Rob Smierciak (“Slow Money,” “Guitar Time”). Want to share unlimited access to The Atlantic with your loved ones? Give a gift today at theatlantic.com/podgift. For a limited time, select new subscriptions will come with the bold Atlantic tote bag as a free holiday bonus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:15.0

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0:22.5

So Ian, when I sent you that voice note yesterday, I just wanted to let you in my head a little

0:27.8

bit.

0:29.4

Hello Ian, Alas, I'm waiting at the bus stop and it seems it will never come.

0:36.8

A small glimpse into how anxious I am, just waiting for anything.

0:41.8

I don't know what to do.

0:42.8

Do I just start walking?

0:46.8

Do I give up?

0:48.8

Do I walk to the metro?

0:50.8

At this point, who really knows?

0:52.8

It's been probably four minutes, oh.

0:59.4

There's only four minutes, Becca.

1:00.8

It's not very much time.

1:02.8

It's embarrassing and I'm standing there and while I'm waiting, I'm switching between

1:08.8

two modes of like, I should be making the most of this time.

1:11.8

Let me read that article.

1:12.8

My friend sent me or check my emails or like, this is insane.

1:16.8

It's only been four minutes.

1:17.8

I should be a bit more mindful, but I know that I don't want to be wasting my time just standing there.

1:29.8

I'm Becca Rashid, producer of How to Keep Time and I'm here with my co-host, Ian Bogost.

1:35.8

Hey Becca.

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